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hmm is their argument really that wealth/value creation is a bad thing or that it's distributed unequally? I don't think socialists today are the proletariat of yesterday: they want "free college, craft beers, and Brooklyn lofts" for everyone as @antoniogm memorably put it
only aspect where I see this definitively being the case is when talking about the environment + future, it's never about human wealth/happiness/flourishing but the polar bears or baby seals . etc
This is not remotely true, when people talk about climate they talk about coastal flooding, food shortages, refugees, etc, all things that affect people
not talking about climate change specifically although I guess thats the word for all environmentalism these days. Just in general where there's a lot of "it would be better for the Earth if humans weren't around or if there were less" or other similar anti-natalist positions
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