Peter-Paul Koch

@ppk counter theory: PE is important to some, and not to others. Then there's those who just want to make.

@rem Wouldn't it be possible that those that are not interested in PE are very interested in new features?

@ppk absolutely. But I doubt if its binary (I don't expect you do either).

@rem It's just that, as far as I know, nobody said this before. And I think it needs to be said.

@ppk can you expand on that thought? How do new browser features harm PE? Do you mean as if used irresponsibly with no fallback?

@trodrigues Yes, I'm going to expand this. As to tools, I think we should ditch them altogether.

@ppk This bothers me every day. It's 2015 and we still need to manually build localized datepickers with timezone support for instance.

@ppk "progressive enhancement" is just a fundamentally wrongheaded idea.

@ExtAnimal You will have to defend that idea in a longer piece, I think. Right now I disagree with you.

@ppk Yeah, I can't in 140 characters.

@kethinov @ppk Depends whether you see it as a document, or a fully functional application with buttons, panels, sliders etc.

@ppk in any case I would argue people using new development tools and frameworks irresponsibly is a much bigger issue for PE

@trodrigues @ppk what does “irresponsibly” mean though?

@nortools @ppk example: just because you can do client side rendering, doesn't mean you should on all situations.