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    1. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 1 Dec 2017
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      Marco Rogers Retweeted Jason Martens

      This is not wrong, but it's interesting to phrase it this way. Since when are we sad about megacorps having less money and control? Also who is "we"?https://twitter.com/bitmaker_me/status/936619083168018433 …

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      Jason Martens @bitmaker_me
      Replying to @bitmaker_me @polotek
      Infrastructure stuff has always had value. OSS took that value away from Sun, Microsoft, etc. and we got used to getting it for free.
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    2. Jason Martens‏ @bitmaker_me 1 Dec 2017
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      Linux is maybe the best example of an OSS project that many companies *do* pay for. Think it’s much harder for smaller projects to make a compelling case they are worth $$.

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    3. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 1 Dec 2017
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      People don't pay for Linux though. They pay for support and services around Linux. Which I also addressed. We're not disagreeing. Just seeking clarity around the definition of value.

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    4. Jason Martens‏ @bitmaker_me 1 Dec 2017
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      Yes, looking for clarity also. *Most* people don’t pay for linux, but many companies do contribute to the Linux Foundation, which directly funds linux development. It’s an outlier, but one model that does exist. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/membership/ 

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    5. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 1 Dec 2017
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      Dude. I get it. But you do understand that by definition it's not useful in this conversation precisely because it is an outlier?

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    6. Jason Martens‏ @bitmaker_me 1 Dec 2017
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      Sorry, not trying to beat a dead horse. It’s helpful for me to think about it in the larger scope of OSS projects that get paid. (Also, Linux foundation funds way more projects than I thought, node is on the list)

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    7. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 1 Dec 2017
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      yep. Node foundation is a subsidiary. It's a very successful model. All the more strange that it doesn't seem to be replicable.

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    8. Jason Martens‏ @bitmaker_me 1 Dec 2017
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      But you are correct. There are no other major “Linux Foundations” I can think of. Nor have I seen any successful model of consumers directly paying for a product.

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      Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 1 Dec 2017
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      It may be more accurate to think of the Linux Foundation as a monopoly company that sustains itself through a few major value generators plus M&A.

      11:26 AM - 1 Dec 2017
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        2. Jason Martens‏ @bitmaker_me 1 Dec 2017
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          How so? Feels like the M&A part breaks down pretty quickly because a project can always leave the foundation. They aren’t transferring copyright to the foundation right?

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        3. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 1 Dec 2017
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          Sure. Not a perfect analogy. Just trying to get at why the model isn't replicable. M&A is a useful metaphor in the sense that smaller competitors can't survive long enough to grow.

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