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    1.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @pobocks @mattoflambda

      Most leftist criticism is coming from pro sex-worker voices, and seems largely on these grounds: 1. treating access to sex worker's bodies as a commodity, rather than as a negotiated service relation (cont.)

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    2.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @pobocks @mattoflambda

      2. the rationale behind the "redistribution" argument stems from buying the "incels are reacting authentically from lack of sexual access" argument, which is a cover for the actual problems of toxic masculinity and violence stemming from same.

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    3. Matt Parsons  🏳️‍🌈‏ @mattoflambda May 2
      Replying to @pobocks

      Sure, but let's put aside the nasty outgroup for a minute. Sex and affection are deeply important to mental health and well-being for many people. If we can justify massage, therapy, etc. on a medical basis, why not sex work?

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    4.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @mattoflambda

      I think you're possibly constructing a version of this argument in your head out of the more reasonable legalization arguments used as preface/cover.

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    5.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @pobocks @mattoflambda

      (this argument := redist discourse)

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    6.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @pobocks @mattoflambda

      The problem isn't the legalization stuff that's wrapped around because it's a precondition, it's the core "lack of sex made them kill, so we _redistribute_ sex as a palliative."

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    7.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @pobocks @mattoflambda

      A) Lack of sex isn't the issue, that's fundamentally not how it works. B) Frameworks based on assigning sex workers to interact with dangerous misogynists isn't sex-worker positive.

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    8. Matt Parsons  🏳️‍🌈‏ @mattoflambda May 2
      Replying to @pobocks

      I certainly wouldn't advocate for any kind of forced assignment in any case -- the only way this could possibly be ethical is if it were entirely consensual and ethical and if some kind of monetary compensation were offered to those affected.

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    9.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @mattoflambda

      This is kind of what I mean by "you're stripping out the "redistribution" part and constructing an argument out of its "legalization" clothing. Because _there is no safe or ethical way to apply sex work to fix radical misogyny_."

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    10.  ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @pobocks @mattoflambda

      I'm Bad At Searching Twitter but I saw someone say roughly: "any of these guys could go contract with someone for sex work. That's a thing people do. But remember a HUGE thing with them is degrading and commodifying women and seeing them as hierarchical status markers."

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       ⚰️ 🎃Gravy Mayo‽ 🎃 🦃‏ @pobocks May 2
      Replying to @pobocks @mattoflambda

      I think this is a big part of why negative reaction is so vehement - because the redist argument is fundamentally the _same commodification_ that's so fundamental to incel/redpill misogyny, cloaked in a charade of pro-sex work stuff.

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