Geoengineering cheaply takes care of the tail risk. Its likely side effects are minor and easily reversed. Greater uncertainty means lower likelihood that humans are a major cause of warming. Overall, it weakens the case for decarbonization.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @pmddomingos
What do you think of this analysis? https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/weitzman/files/fattaileduncertaintyeconomics.pdf … For given average level of climate change, if the effects of GHG are less certain, that means more risk of catastrophe (since costs grow disproportionately with more warming)
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @erikbryn
How does this paper conflict at all with what I said? Geoengineering caps the tail risk. More uncertainty also means lower likelihood that GHGs are a major problem a at all. Overall, less of a case for decarbonization, which would be massively disruptive for unclear gain.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @pmddomingos
More uncertainty about the effects of GHGs and the various feedback mechanisms means that there’s *more* of a chance that GHG‘s are a catastrophic risk.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @erikbryn
But we can use geoengineering to cheaply cap that risk. And on the other side, it means more of a chance that they're not a problem at all (in fact, they may even lower the temperature, depending on cloud effects, etc.). So overall, less of a case for (high-cost) decarbonization.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @pmddomingos
OK so your argument is almost the opposite of how I interpreted your original tweet. You think that there’s little uncertainty about the risks of GHG because we understand the models of climate and Geoengineering very well and can cap the risk. Am I understanding you correctly?
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @erikbryn
No! Uncertainty about the effects of GHGs is very high, but we can cap the upper tail risk by geoengineering, so overall increasing uncertainty decreases the expected utility of decarbonization.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @pmddomingos
I think I get it now. Your argument for not worrying much seems to hinge mainly on your high confidence in the models of large scale climate change geoengineering in case of looming catastrophe, not in your lack of confidence in climate change models generally.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @erikbryn
We have empirical evidence from volcanic eruptions that geoengineering works and is not too disruptive. I'm not saying we shouldn't worry (!). I'm saying we should pick the plan with highest expected utility, and putting all our eggs in decarbonization's basket is not it.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @pmddomingos
We certainly should seek the best ways to address the risks. But a pet peeve of mine is the mistaken claim that if we are more uncertain about the risks then we should pay less attention to them. I’m not saying you were claiming that but many people seem to.
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I think they're confusing uncertainty of risks with their likelihood. My larger point is that the best solution under high uncertainty is one that works in the whole range of possible scenarios. Decarbonization is the opposite of that.
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