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  1. Hunter Walk ‏@hunterwalk Jun 19

    Can a product few use ever be considered "well designed?" Are acceptance & scale prerequisites for great design or challenges to design?

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    Marc AndreessenVerified account ‏@pmarca Jun 19

    @hunterwalk What about products that tons of people use that are obviously terribly "designed"?

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    1. Kyle Hufford ‏@kyleverywhere Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk function > design works in tech, maybe not fashion

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    2. Hunter Walk ‏@hunterwalk Jun 19

      @pmarca certainly don't think mass use has to = good design. But good design = usability, & scale often = usability challenges

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    3. Marc Andreessen ‏@pmarca Jun 19

      @hunterwalk How does one square the importance of design for success with the success of Craigslist?

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    4. Ben Leib ‏@bgleib Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk or reddit

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    5. Aaron Suplizio ‏@4strngz Jun 19

      Clearly scale ^= good design @pmarca @hunterwalk. Good aesthetics exist in low scale luxury goods. But good UX design cant exist w/o scale

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    6. Edwin Khodabakchian ‏@edwk Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk @bjfogg would say that behavior = motivation x ability x trigger. Ability ~ design. You can have poor design win if …

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    7. Mike Amundsen ‏@mamund Jun 19

      @pmarca "design" is not an absolute and craglists' design was right for the target time/audience (1990s newspapers) @hunterwalk

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    8. Aaron Suplizio ‏@4strngz Jun 19

      I'll amend that to say 'great UX design can't be justified without scale' @pmarca @hunterwalk. So tough to tweet thoughts w/o a storm...

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    9. Edwin Khodabakchian ‏@edwk Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk motivation is really high or there are a lot of natural triggers.

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    10. Hunter Walk ‏@hunterwalk Jun 19

      @4strngz @pmarca i think i agree w "But good UX design cant exist w/o scale" (or at least i tend to admire those who design for scale)

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    11. Othman Laraki ‏@othman Jun 19

      @hunterwalk @pmarca Good design is diff than aesthetics. IMO CL was well designed for its time and purpose. Eg email loop for auth...

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    12. Mark Jeffrey ‏@markjeffrey Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk Design is bunk. Utility is all. Evidence: Google. Craigslist. Ebay. Twitter. Hulks of their competition behind them.

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    13. Raza Jaffri ‏@jaffri Jun 19

      @MarcoDeMeireles yes I think that's the case. Today the same design for the same sector won't make a cut. @pmarca @hunterwalk

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    14. Niv Dror ‏@Nivo0o0 Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk DMV. IDs/Passports. TV Guide. Windows. Any medical record ever printed. Airline 1-800 numbers. GDP as Econ indicator.

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    15. Marc Andreessen ‏@pmarca Jun 19

      @othman @hunterwalk Do we therefore know good design by its resulting market success? Success means the design was good?

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    16. Joshua Nguyen ‏@joshuanguyen Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk design matters as differentiator when there's competition. Craigslist was in its own class for a long time.

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    17. Varun Khona ‏@varunkhona Jun 19

      @pmarca @hunterwalk The issue is with how we define good design with a good UI. In reality, UX > UI.

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