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    Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 17 Aug 2019

    Re: ETH's tBTC "non-custodial" doesn't necessarily mean trustless: even if you accept the use of that term¹, tBTC is dependent on trusted oracles. 1) the federation holding the private keys sure sounds like custodians to me... 2) "governed by the ecosystem" = "we have no idea" https://twitter.com/lwsnbaker/status/1162541711953821696 …pic.twitter.com/egh5IaOwC2

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    • Ronald Arlyn Culwick HillaryGotSchlonged Hodl_only_BTC Timothy Solomon ⚡🇿🇦 Puneet Verma MAGIC INTERNET MONEY Kyle Torpey Tony Stuntz
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      2. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 17 Aug 2019

        ETHs biggest problem might be that they attracted an army of dishonest academics who are finding out the hard way that it's very difficult to repeat the success of PoW. PoW is an almost "magical" solution to a previously thought unsolved problem. That doesn't happen very often.

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      3. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 17 Aug 2019

        ETH "innovations" tend to be along the lines of "We do this _amazing_ thing with magical trustless properties... Please ignore the trusted oracle behind the curtain."

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      1. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 17 Aug 2019
        Replying to @YangVentures

        Lawson didn't make tBTC afaik; my impression was his role in this tweet was closer to that of a writer/reporter. The academics I've interacted with usually seem like smart people who probably understand that what they're doing doesn't actually work. At best, motivated delusion.

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      2. Richard Myers  ⚡ 🕸️ 📻‏ @remyers_ 17 Aug 2019
        Replying to @peterktodd

        How does tBTC improve on LBTC using the Liquid network? LBTC includes confidential transactions which is an important privacy feature.

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      3. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 17 Aug 2019
        Replying to @remyers_

        Different type of risk profile is the most honest claim you could make. But for sure CT would be a good feature to have; may be possible to add that to tBTC.

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      2. instagibbs  🐬‏ @theinstagibbs 17 Aug 2019
        Replying to @peterktodd

        But no you see the custodians are switched around randomly because uhhhhhh reasons

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 17 Aug 2019
        Replying to @theinstagibbs

        Switching the custodians around sufficiently fast definitely reduces the government lawsuit threat. 😂

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      2. Eric Wall‏ @ercwl 18 Aug 2019
        Replying to @peterktodd

        1) custodians are kept in check by having a overcollateralized ETH stake that can be forcibly taken from them 2) here are the future design ideas for price oraclespic.twitter.com/R0BKqBz5Sv

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Eric Wall‏ @ercwl 18 Aug 2019
        Replying to @ercwl @peterktodd

        Agree that decentralized price data is still not solved for the time being, but don't think that this will always be true. Checking the ratio of a liquid Uniswap contract for instance (although in this particular case that might lead to some problematic circular dependencies)...

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      2. Brandon Quittem‏ @Bquittem 17 Aug 2019
        Replying to @peterktodd

        Brandon Quittem Retweeted Udi Wertheimer

        https://twitter.com/udiwertheimer/status/1162668713763581954?s=21 …

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        Udi Wertheimer @udiWertheimer
        Replying to @udiWertheimer @VitalikButerin and 2 others
        I'm (obviously) ok with tradeoffs, and this is indeed a different tradeoff than Liquid and maybe someone finds it more useful. But Liquid isn't described as seizure resistant and this shouldn't be either
        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Udi Wertheimer‏ @udiWertheimer 17 Aug 2019
        Replying to @Bquittem @peterktodd

        Udi Wertheimer Retweeted Udi Wertheimer

        This one is more to the point imo 😅https://twitter.com/udiWertheimer/status/1162667141142929409 …

        Udi Wertheimer added,

        Udi Wertheimer @udiWertheimer
        Replying to @VitalikButerin
        47 pages of spec to obfuscate yet another scheme fully centralized around a price oracle. Never gets old
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