Only if you’re wilfully dishonest about what is removed for many girls subjected to FGM. Again, show me which version of male circumcision involves the removal of the glans? Does male circ lead to death in childbirth for those subjected to it?
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Replying to @Northernbutnice @peaceniky and
How about this, we agree to drop the comparisons if you agree to only fight against those forms of FGM that do involve what you're claiming, only FGM IIB, IIC and III have that childbirth risk, only those and IB have the partial clitordectomy.
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Replying to @ReyosB @Northernbutnice and
I want to make it clear I am not seriously suggesting this, however you keep again comparing the rarer forms of FGM to circumcision as if that's a valid comparison, where we compare the comparable and averages, you're pushing a false story that FGM on the whole is worse it's not.
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Replying to @ReyosB @peaceniky and
I’m pushing no false stories. I’m claiming they aren’t the same thing, biologically or culturally. It really is that simple. It doesn’t mean I support one and not the other, they’re just not the same thing, ergo, in my opinion not the same campaign.
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Replying to @Northernbutnice @peaceniky and
If that were the case then FGM III should be a separate campaign from FGM II which should be separate from FGM I, because the biological damage done is different. And the campaigns in Somalia should be separate from the campaigns in Malaysia because the culture is different.
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Replying to @ReyosB @peaceniky and
If you put half the effort into campaigning against male circumcision as you do harassing women campaigning against FGM you would have made great progress by now. I suggest if you’re serious about preventing male circ you focus your efforts there. I wish you every success.
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Replying to @Northernbutnice @peaceniky and
And I put more effort into that, however we'd also be making progress by now if it weren't for women like Nimco here, who go out of their way to throw boys under the bus when it comes to genital mutilation.
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Replying to @ReyosB @peaceniky and
Aaaaaand STILL wasting your time on Twitter harassing women...
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Replying to @Northernbutnice @ReyosB and
Nimco has down played the damage done by mgm in an attempt to separate the genital cutting debate away from the more controversial position of stsnding up for male rights too so that she can inhabit a safe and uncontroversial «only fgm is bad» position. She’s a disgrace
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Replying to @peaceniky @ReyosB and
FGM is what she campaigns against and rightly so, it’s her expertise and lived experience. Denigrating her success because m.circumcision campaigners apparently prefer to abuse Nimco on Twitter rather than fight their cause in a meaningful way is what’s disgraceful.
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I’m glad she campaigns against fgm. But when her campaign includes downplaying the harm caused by mgm to make her message more palatable to people who might practice mgm i think she rightly deserves to be called a disgrace and a coward
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Replying to @peaceniky @ReyosB and
When a charity focuses on raising money for MS are they ‘downplaying’ the harm caused by cancer and vice versa? No both are worthy causes which deserve their own (separate) campaigns. Harm, re. death/serious injury, if you want to go there, the statistics speak for themselves.
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Replying to @Northernbutnice @ReyosB and
No but if during your charity for MS you say that cancer isn’t as serious your part of the problem. Thats what nimco has done. I do want to go there. Lets talk about harm, deaths caused by circumcision of males snd femsles in both medical and non-medical settings.
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