And yet Firefox fought IE to a draw and then some with a tiny staff and no money. Times are different, and I don't want to romanticize the past, but I this perspective feels way to defeatist to me. Half a billion dollars a year gives you a lot of options.
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Replying to @wycats @TedMielczarek and
It takes a huge team to implement today's increasingly complex web standards compared to back then. Real browsers have engines :P
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Replying to @asadotzler @TedMielczarek and
UC is absolutely its own engine (it's a fork of webkit, but so is Blink, and I think you count Blink as a "real engine"). As a framework author, I wish it weren't so, but it is.
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Replying to @wycats @TedMielczarek and
I don't consider all webkit forks the way I consider Google and Blink. Do you?
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Replying to @asadotzler @TedMielczarek and
It's a very old fork with extremely significant divergences, including a huge reliance on server processing. They're not just leeching off of Apple; not at all.
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Replying to @wycats @asadotzler and
For what it’s worth, I think UC Browser is pretty different, because they would not be competitive at all if they weren’t targeting the Chinese market specifically (market share data confirms this).
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I think something much more interesting is the success of Samsung Internet, which speaks volumes about what drives adoption in the mobile space.
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Replying to @wycats @asadotzler and
That browsers right now are interchangeable commodities in the mobile space, so integration plays (hardware, Chinese government support, etc.) are pretty much the only thing that drive adoption.
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Replying to @pcwalton @asadotzler and
This feels like the wrong lesson to learn. UC is popular in part because it addresses real pain points for its users (by leaning hard on server support, same reason Opera w/ server rendering was popular). Edge is losing on Windows, despite cartoonish integration plays.
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I see your point and I agree that UC’s technical choices did help, but I think the fact that it’s a Chinese company competing in the Chinese market is equally important. I mean, look at Baidu, etc. Also notice how UC has very little penetration outside of China, even in other EM.
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Replying to @pcwalton @asadotzler and
The Taipei layoffs certainly don't give me the impression that Mozilla thinks have local talent with awareness of local requirements is a priority. (yes, I know Taipei is not in China, but even this minimal amount of local talent was snuffed out)
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