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    1. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu 24 Feb 2018
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      I strongly disagree to that, most of those changes are optimising code for writing and vague notions of "happiness" or whatever, and they will ultimately hinder code reviewing because you'll need to keep more stuff in mind to follow the code. Cf.https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/42640#issuecomment-368161767 …

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    2. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @nokusu @brendanzab and

      I don’t share the concern. I remember lots of similar concerns around things that were totally uncontroversial now; e.g. “none.” vs. “None”

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    3. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Feb 2018
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      Or capture clauses. This is actually a very similar situation to capture clauses, and it ended up not mattering at all.

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    4. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu 24 Feb 2018
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      That's because we have `move` for closures that capture. That's completely unrelated to reading code and not even knowing if a value was moved or not. I do know from my own experience that I rely on all those visual cues a lot. "none" vs "None" is entirely offtopic.

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    5. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @nokusu @brendanzab and

      “none.” vs. “None”, with the dot for disambiguation. I don’t think you were around for this controversy :)

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    6. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu 24 Feb 2018
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      Still offtopic.

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    7. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @nokusu @brendanzab and

      It shows that more verbosity doesn’t always help, and implicit is sometimes better than explicit.

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    8. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu 24 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @pcwalton @brendanzab and

      The module changes make most imports more verbose, `T throws E` moves the verbosity around but amounts to the same amount of code in the end, same for argument-bound lifetimes.

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    9. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @nokusu @brendanzab and

      Different feature proposals have different motivations. I didn’t say every feature being proposed was less verbose.

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    10. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu 24 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @pcwalton @brendanzab and

      Sure, but you were the one to mention verbosity. At not point did I say we should make the code more verbose for the only purpose of making it more verbose.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @nokusu @brendanzab and

      The main point of default bindings modes, from my point of view, is to reduce verbosity.

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        2. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu 24 Feb 2018
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          Replying to @pcwalton @brendanzab and

          Ok, fair enough. I have no issue with default `ref` mode and putting `&` where there should be one in the pattern, but I still don't think implying `ref mut` is a good idea.

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        3. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Feb 2018
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          I don’t see the problem myself, but I do agree with the overarching point that we should not stabilize without use in big projects.

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