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    Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Sep 2017
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    A lot of complaints about undefined behavior optimizations in C/C++ are really complaints that C/C++ aren’t type safe.

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      2. Jacob plotting by the seat of his pants Moena  🇩🇰‏ @jacmoe 24 Sep 2017
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        It is strongly typed, and yes: in C++ we lose the diapers, take off the training wheels and get the work done as we please 😄

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      3. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 24 Sep 2017
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        “Strongly typed” is undefined marketing speak.

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      1. eevee‏ @eevee 24 Sep 2017
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        🔥

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      2. Jacob plotting by the seat of his pants Moena  🇩🇰‏ @jacmoe 25 Sep 2017
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        Replying to @SIGKILL @pcwalton @BrendanEich

        In my opinion, developer elitism is very immature. At the end of the day, they are just tools. Chose one, or other, depending on the job.

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        I believe the first mention of diapers was by you, my dude

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      1. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 24 Sep 2017
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        Impenetrable! https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-93/product_id-19117/Oracle-JRE.html …

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      1. team:247472@folding at home‏ @strangeqargo 24 Sep 2017
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        There's no such thing as C/C++ on any level above kindergarten programming

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      1. team:247472@folding at home‏ @strangeqargo 24 Sep 2017
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        Seriously though mixing c and c++ considered a bad practice, language abuse. Acceptable only during migration.

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      1. alex‏ @alex_pka 25 Sep 2017
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        you can always use compcert -- optimizations should come without undefined behaviour, too bad, the same cannot be said for the lang. itselif

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      1. team:247472@folding at home‏ @strangeqargo 25 Sep 2017
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        we should keep it in the basement until it behaves better https://matt.sh/howto-c  still though C++ / D >>> C > Go etc

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