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    1. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
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      AMP has a GitHub first contribution model. All you need is a GH account. No memberships or official mandate required.

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    2. Dave Herman‏ @littlecalculist 24 Aug 2017
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      That's all fine. But unlike standards, non-Googlers have had no say in whether the entire project exists, high-level vision, etc.

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    3. Dave Herman‏ @littlecalculist 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @littlecalculist @cramforce and

      What if every browser vendor just started creating its own "standards" and shipping them? "Everyone can participate" but...

      3 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
    4. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @littlecalculist @wycats @seldo

      This is all theoretical. In reality it is drastically easier to participate in & influence AMP as a web dev than it is for web standards.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
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      As a full time web developer who participates in standards too I can categorically say that this is false.

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Aug 2017
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      Web standards processes give leverage to participants, implementor or not. This is a source of frustration for some implementors.

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @wycats @littlecalculist @seldo

      You are a laudable exception. For now AMP has 3x the GH contributors to HTML.

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    8. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Aug 2017
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      On HN I proposed removing the AMP ban on animations that Chrome can’t composite (though WebRender can). IIRC, you said no.

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    9. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Aug 2017
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      AFAICT the only way forward, given your objections, is to rewrite Chrome’s painter/compositor on my own. Which I obviously can’t do.

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    10. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
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      AMP does care about being fast on today’s browsers. This is a moving target. I’m happy to discuss this particular case.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @cramforce @wycats and

      Can you describe what I need to do to get Chrome to make paint animations fast?

      5:30 PM - 24 Aug 2017
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        2. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 24 Aug 2017
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          The “being fast in today’s browsers” restriction effectively gives Google Chrome management veto power over any AMP proposals.

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        3. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
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          In the vast majority of cases this is false. We typically eagerly take advantage of new browser features with graceful degradation.

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        1. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 24 Aug 2017
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          I don't work on Chrome. Maybe ship that in Firefox and then make the Chrome team envious? There has been **some** progress.

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