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    1. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 25 Apr 2017
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      corvus frugilegus Retweeted eddyb, thriving in isolation,

      Ok, sorry if I'm being dense: what's the connection between this tweet https://twitter.com/eddyb_r/status/856901670294478848 … and the next two?

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      eddyb, thriving in isolation, @eddyb_r
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      At that point the web is just a *very* convoluted input & render engine. I started a company to make native UI appeal more than touching web
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    2. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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      You're not, I'm obfuscating myself maybe a bit too much :P. My approach to making native ergonomic & efficient is static (re)compilation.

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    3. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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      Things like how xmonad is configured by writing an entrypoint into the library, but for integrated GUI app settings and many other things.

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    4. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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      There's a kneejerk reaction to this, and *also* to my belief that we can abolish stable ABIs completely.

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    5. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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      If you've used NixOS, imagine all apps being configured, *on the fly*, like that *and recompiling quickly* (incrementally, specifically).

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    6. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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      If it sounds utopic, it's because I haven't proven this yet. If it actually turns out to be unfeasible, the future sucks and I don't want it

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    7. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 25 Apr 2017
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      I feel like I'm now halfway to understanding :P

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    8. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 25 Apr 2017
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      I see how this would be good for efficiency, but isn't native >>>>> web on efficiency anyways, already?

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    9. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @glaebhoerl @ManishEarth

      It's not that simple - @pcwalton would love to have words with you. E.g. Servo can abuse the declarative nature of CSS for parallelism.

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    10. corvus frugilegus‏ @glaebhoerl 25 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @eddyb_r @ManishEarth @pcwalton

      (The advantage of web/CSS is over *particular* native GUI solutions like Qt in this case, not "in general", right?)

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 25 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @glaebhoerl @eddyb_r @ManishEarth

      Mostly it’s that declarative > imperative…most native APIs depend on “paint imperatively via preorder traversal” for historical reasons

      3:01 PM - 25 Apr 2017
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        2. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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          Yeah, what I have in mind would avoid imperative code where feasible (similar declarative/functional patterns to Rust iterators/streams).

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        3. eddyb, thriving in isolation,‏ @eddyb_r 25 Apr 2017
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          But also arbitrarily sectionable, *unlike* Rust iterators or lazy lists (well, there's probably a way to get Haskell to do the same).

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