TIL from the orange site: There are still Carbon fans who want it to come back.
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I guess it's about trust. Trust that the newer API will be well-designed. Trust that the newer API will not be used in a hostile way against its users, etc. Microsoft's reputation precedes them
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I mean, they were responsible for MFC. *Nothing against the individuals who actually created MFC.*
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Microsoft has not understood what people want out of an api for a long, long time. Every replacement to win32 is amazingly worse. But if you think that’s bad, you should see them try to replace odbc.
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Well the Carbon fans were really loud, they just left a long time
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Also Microsoft has never really had a “Cocoa”. Win64 was basically just a straight 64-bitization, and the more aggressive stuff like .NET Forms or XAML or WinRT was so radical that moving large apps to it would have been impractical.
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The fact that pretty much no one trusts one of the biggest tech companies on the planet to make a competent API is very sad.
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If one sees their track record for the past 20 years, it has not been very good, and most of the new APIs/... they make end up dead/forgotten after a few years. Meanwhile, the Win32 API, while crufty, is "tried and true", and 20+ year old code still generally works, ...
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I wanted to learn more about the MS api, but I could never really figure it out. They seemed to change languages so frequently. I wanted to make a hello world in Windows, for example, in C, and struggled to do so.
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I think most developers are just hoping that the "managed lang camp" and the "unmanaged lang camp" at Microsoft manage to battle it out one day. Because being a user of one camp's "new approach" isn't great if the other camp's trying to sabotage it the whole time.
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