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    1. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 3 Dec 2019
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      Obviously I disagree with this criticism of Cargo. Some may call it “SAT solving”; I call it “making it easy to keep dependencies up to date”. Not allowing users to document incompatibilities doesn’t actually *solve* anything; it just makes things that should be easy hard.https://twitter.com/_rsc/status/1201943365358686208 …

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      Russ Cox @_rsc
      New blog post: “The Principles of Versioning in Go” #golang If you didn't see my GopherCon Singapore 2018 talk and wonder why the Go modules design diverges from Cargo, Dep, and so on, this is the post for you. https://research.swtch.com/vgo-principles 
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    2. Russ Cox‏ @_rsc 3 Dec 2019
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      The key point, no matter what name you want to use, is that documenting incompatibilities doesn't actually *solve* anything either. Unless you can rewrite the past and document new incompatibilities in old packages, which has its own problems (and isn't happening anyway).

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    3. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 3 Dec 2019
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      Yes, it does. Specifying incompatibilities makes cargo update do the right thing instead of breaking your code.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 3 Dec 2019
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      I mean, if it didn’t solve any problems, nobody would be writing version specifications other than basic major/minor versions in Cargo.tomls. But, obviously, people are doing that. Not often, but people do use that functionality.

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        2. Sam Tobin-Hochstadt‏ @samth 4 Dec 2019
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          I wish there was some discussion of Haskell here, which has a policy that attempts to address these issues, a way of updating packages to fix things, and a lot of controversy about both.

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        3. Carter T Schonwald‏ @cartazio 4 Dec 2019
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          And a team of volunteers to prevent breakages from propagating by improving build plans.

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