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    1. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 28 Oct 2019
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      I think what happens in Rust is that you *start out* thinking concretely about the borrow checker. Eventually, though, you just think about memory management abstractly and then reach for the Rust design pattern that satisfies the scheme you end up going with.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 28 Oct 2019
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      Maybe the right question is: How do we make it easy for people to build up their own mental library of Rust memory management design patterns?

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        2. Henk Poley‏ @HenkPoley 28 Oct 2019
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          Maybe something akin to, but for rust memory management: https://deadlockempire.github.io/  Play an adversary who tries to break the software through the memory model (of other languages).

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        3. Je suis l'utra droite (il parait)‏ @stymaar 29 Oct 2019
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          I learned about this game while I was learning Rust, and it actually helped me a lot.

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        1. Jedd Haberstro‏ @jhaberstro 28 Oct 2019
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          "Gang of Four Design Patterns: Rust Redo Edition"

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        2. Nathan‏ @ncraike 28 Oct 2019
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          A Gang-of-Four-style book or online documentation would be a good start? I struggled with the original Gang of Four book because so many examples are in C++. But also, it's unclear if some of the patterns provide value beyond working around limitations of C++.

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        3. Robbie‏ @bravenewprince 29 Oct 2019
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          I would be down for this, but perhaps start with “patterns” that are less sophisticated, as to be suited for beginners. Early chapters less Gang of Foury and more templatey.

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        1. mik‏ @mik235 28 Oct 2019
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          a blog post would be nice!

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        1. Damian Gryski‏ @dgryski 28 Oct 2019
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          Cute names and cartoon logos? :D

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        1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Oct 2019
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          Yes, this is the question. tbh, I'm glad we got elision (two versions) done as early as we did.

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        1. Robbie‏ @bravenewprince 29 Oct 2019
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          I REALLY need more examples! Do you know how long it took me to realize fn foo(self) consumes self? I’m talking years. Also, the mutability of a variable is part of its type signature. Mind blown. Lastly, borrow checking is just a typestate implementation.

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        1. Jimmy Zelinskie‏ @jimmyzelinskie 29 Oct 2019
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          Force them to use c++ 😂😂😭

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