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    1. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 7 Oct 2019
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      Idea: The “left-pad index”, a score for Rust crates that combines small size with popularity. The goal would be to find potential candidates for additions to the standard library, or at least merging into larger crates.

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    2. Siân Griffin  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 7 Oct 2019
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      On the other hand the registry is immutible, so perhaps we should just embrace not needing everything in std?

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    3. Tony “Abolish ICE” Arcieri  🦀‏ @bascule 7 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @sgrif @pcwalton @yaahc_

      That's great until you get append-only malware

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    4. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 7 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @bascule @sgrif @yaahc_

      Yeah, I’m wary of making std bigger myself. We already have stuff in the stdlib that’s widely disliked (MPSC channels).

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    5. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 7 Oct 2019
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      I’m not sure what the solution is here. People don’t seem to like lots of tiny crates and people also don’t like big standard libraries. People talk about Go’s standard library as the gold standard but I don’t really agree; there’s plenty of junk in there too (container/).

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 7 Oct 2019
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      Maybe the best solution is to group small, popular, related crates together under a trusted organization. e.g. same-file and walkdir could be in a fs-utils crate. That kind of thing.

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        1. X Æ A-MMXX‏ @0b11111 7 Oct 2019
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          I like this because you can get individual crates or grab the whole utility belt.

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        1. Tony “Abolish ICE” Arcieri  🦀‏ @bascule 7 Oct 2019
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          Sounds like rust-lang-nursery 😉

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        1. James Tucker‏ @raggi 16 Oct 2019
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          They don't necessarily need to be in the same crate, but it would be nice to put them under common overall governance, security policy and licensing, to reduce the cost of them.

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        2. Dawid Ciezarkiewicz‏ @dpc_pw 20 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @pcwalton @bascule and

          As usual Rust has an opportunity to combine superficially opposite solutions to get benefits of both. Big-stdlib advocates wants language team to relief them from having to discover, review, vet and maintain 3rd party crates. Small-stdlib advocates want to avoid the stdlib-rot.

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        3. Dawid Ciezarkiewicz‏ @dpc_pw 20 Dec 2019
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          There is a middle-ground here that would satisfy everyone. Take the most popular and useful crates under official umbrella, commit to their maintenance and quality, make them discoverable and clearly trustworthy, yet keep evolving them under semver.

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