yep!
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Replying to @johnregehr @barrelshifter
for example we should emphasize writing and public speaking way more, I sucked at both these things until well into my PhD
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Replying to @johnregehr @barrelshifter
...and based on how well most academics do those, you were way ahead of the curve.
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Replying to @DRMacIver @barrelshifter
though it's not really the case that industry has a major surplus of talented computer scientists who also happen to be great at speaking and writing
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Replying to @johnregehr @barrelshifter
I think it's fair to say that the quality of public speaking at industry conferences is way better than that at academic ones. I will grant you that industry sucks at writing too, although I'd often still rather read an industry blog post than an academic paper.
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Replying to @DRMacIver @barrelshifter
the industry conference thing is weird though, since talks are given by people who are more like semi-professional conference speakers
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Replying to @johnregehr @barrelshifter
Kinda? The high priced big names, certainly, but whether you have those depends a lot on the level of conference. Mostly I go to small community run conferences, and the speakers there will tend not to give more than 1-3 talks per year.
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I give about that many talks at industry conferences, and I definitely would want to up my public speaking game considerably before I'd consider myself a semi-professional conference speaker.
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Replying to @DRMacIver @barrelshifter
just saying that industry talks are often by people who didn't do the work, and that people who fear or suck at public speaking just don't ever do conference talks, unlike academia where it's forced on them
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I’m sure that this happens, but it’s so wildly different from my experience at Apple, where the person speaking almost universally did the work (with semi-exceptions for VPs giving keynotes, but even there they were generally closely involved).
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My data point: The number of talks I’ve done has gone down as my career has advanced, mostly for increasing lack of time due to widening responsibilities.
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