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    1. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Jul 2019
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      Replying to @pcwalton @graydon_pub @mitsuhiko

      For example, a *lot* of the reason software is so unfriendly to non-Latin language speakers is because people who speak those languages just homebrew their text handling instead of using libraries. This is manifestly unfair to most of the world.

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    2. James Widman‏ @JamesWidman 29 Jul 2019
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      there is an important third category of options, which is to reproduce the desired functionality of a library. good text handling is important to users, so it is equally important that more programmers practice the implementation of good text-handling libraries (from scratch).

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    3. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Jul 2019
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      With all due respect, this is implying that English speakers can write, say, Arabic text handling just as well as Arabic speakers can. Not only is this false, this sentiment has ugly cultural implications.

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    4. Joe Groff‏ @jckarter 29 Jul 2019
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      Replying to @pcwalton @JamesWidman and

      Expecting everyone to contribute to one monolithic culture has its own problems. Would building a software ecosystem for Arabic speakers be easier if it didn't need to fit in Latin-centric infrastructure?

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    5. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 29 Jul 2019
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      I think this is key to argument: _small_ deps are the concern, and the putative "harm done" by rewriting a dep (because you don't trust it or simply don't _like_ it -- deps are always a bit of an imperfect fit) is proportional to the dep's size. Big deps matter, but are accepted.

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    6. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Jul 2019
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      I dunno. libsodium is a small dependency. But rewriting that puts users at risk.

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    8. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Jul 2019
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      Replying to @_moonstorms @sunshowers6 and

      Crypto is no less dangerous to rewrite if it’s 20 lines or 200.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Jul 2019
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      Replying to @_moonstorms @sunshowers6 and

      I am very comfortable systematically arguing for fewer implementations of crypto primitives, yes.

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        1. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 29 Jul 2019
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          Replying to @pcwalton @sunshowers6 and

          Yeah I'm ok with that too. A small-ish number of canonical implementations of hard, important deps is a red herring. Doubt anyone dislikes that. The troubling case is taking a totally trivial dep as though it's no cost -- "so why write our own?" -- when it has an integrity cost.

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          If we'd followed this line of argument, the dalek libraries wouldn't exist...

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