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    1. Sean Grove‏ @sgrove 6 May 2019
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      Genuinely curious: What's the advantage of Electron (v3) here now that's it's all WebGL, vs e.g. Rust with its native compilation model (+ great wasm support)? Plugins also seem to run via IPC, so they could still be JS.https://twitter.com/vercel/status/1125303531890593792 …

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      Introducing Hyper 3. Including: ◆ Blazing fast rendering ◆ Speedier startup times ◆ Emoji support Learn about all the updates on our blog: http://hyper.is/blog  pic.twitter.com/DKS0z6M6LQ
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    2. Kamil Tomšík‏ @cztomsik 6 May 2019
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      Replying to @sgrove

      And javascript/typescript has one really big advantage - if the code is public, everybody can help you which is not always true about other languages. I think we rather need a bit lighter electron.

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    3. Sean Grove‏ @sgrove 6 May 2019
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      Replying to @cztomsik

      Definitely agree re: ease of contribution, but some of that's certainly lost when you move to a Open/WebGL backend. Compile times are a never-ending issue with Rust :D Still, I prefer the up-front debugging DX. Surprised re: X-platform libs! Do you have examples?

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    4. Kamil Tomšík‏ @cztomsik 6 May 2019
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      for example there is no rust text layout lib & pango/glib bindings are far from complete (and very challenging to fix/extend) glfw is few versions behind glutin/winit is overly abstract and therefore bad fit for some use-cases webrender is much slower than I was expecting

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 6 May 2019
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      Replying to @cztomsik @sgrove

      How is WebRender slow?

      1:46 PM - 6 May 2019
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        1. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 6 May 2019
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          Replying to @pcwalton @cztomsik @sgrove

          If WR is “slower than expected”, that doesn’t mean that it’s best to use Electron. WebRender is very competitive with Chromium, exceeding its performance in many cases.

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        2. Kamil Tomšík‏ @cztomsik 6 May 2019
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          Replying to @pcwalton @sgrove

          not slow, just slower than I was expecting - I've profiled a bit and it seems you're doing a lot of ser/deser and I'm sure you have your reasons, it's just something I was a bit surprised

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        3. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 6 May 2019
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          It’s for security. Chromium does the same thing. Anyway, Pathfinder may be an alternative to WebRender for apps that can use a canvas interface. It doesn’t have any serialization overhead.

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