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    1. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 1 Feb 2019
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      This is I think one of the biggest problems in web standards. There’s all of this stuff that “everybody knows” but there’s nothing you can link to explaining it. It’s in a slide deck. It’s in a github comment that means nothing out of context. It’s in an earlier draft of a spec.

      5 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    2. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 1 Feb 2019
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      Without disagreeing that we should be constantly seeking to improve the standards process and make it more inclusive, can we appreciate for a moment what an improvement it is that today these things *can* be found on a slide deck or in a GitHub comment?

      3 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
    3. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 1 Feb 2019
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      So much of this stuff used to happen entirely behind closed doors, and that only improved because of the enormous effort of people who believed strongly in the need to open the process up to the world.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 1 Feb 2019
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      The limiting factor IMO is time and energy. People already feel like standards bodies move too slowly. Gaining consensus across so many different groups is emotionally exhausting, and that’s before dealing with the general public. It’s a hard balance to get right.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @tomdale @dfabu and

      I've advocated over the years that @w3c and others should have individual membership classes whose dues pay into a more democratically-allocated budget for travel and representation. Glad JS Foundation is doing more of this now, but not the same.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Feb 2019
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      The crisis of legitimacy is why I've forced our teams to use incubation (modeled on IETF and Raf's TC39 process, which we now take for granted). Going to places where you can more easily meet users *matters* at the early stages.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @tomdale and

      Most SDOs aren't comfortable with discussing funding models and believe they have an evergreen model and constituency. It ain't so. @w3c, e.g., is currently suffering for not building a broader coalition (after many, many warnings).

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @tomdale and

      At the same time, the web (overall) isn't succeeding on mobile. The data I see is more dire than it's ever been. Nobody will go to the web for anything in ~5 years. When it's a pervasively bad time, why would you? Standards are downstream of use.

      3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @tomdale and

      I'd take this bet.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 2 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @wycats @tomdale and

      The specific form of the bet matters; my wager would look something like: "if Lighthouse performance scores for the median page do not increase by ~50% in the next two years, investment in new mobile-web projects will fall off a cliff by 2024"

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 2 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @wycats and

      I’ll take the other side of the bet: “in 2024 most people still won’t know what Lighthouse scores are, and people will still be using the mobile web”.

      2:34 PM - 2 Feb 2019
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @pcwalton @slightlylate and

          We should create a pool :)

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        3. Mehul Kar‏ @mehulkar 2 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @wycats @pcwalton and

          http://longbets.org/ 

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