Someone literally said this as part of a public argument. Do you think I'm making it up?
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Replying to @KirinDave
It’s the Internet. People say all sorts of things. Also: everyone knows Go is getting some kind of generics. The real point of the comment is just that you don’t like the Go community. Not a great look.
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Replying to @tqbf
I do not like folks in the Golang commt saying, "The datatypes we have are fine for me and anyone else can go fuck themselves." Absolutely. I don't. I hope their hairs ingrow.
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Replying to @KirinDave
I never really saw this kind of anger when, for instance, Java was debating closures. Somehow Go just really sets PL enthusiasts off. It’s weird, because Go is _far_ from the worst mainstream language (looking at you ruby)
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Replying to @tqbf @KirinDave
Java embraced PLT, but Go’s designers, particularly Pike, have always been pretty openly contemptuous of the entire PL community. The PL community is reacting in kind. It’s a dumb rivalry in many ways, I agree.
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Replying to @pcwalton @KirinDave
I mean, just be clear that you’re talking STRICTLY about personality. There are ways in which Golang (as a language) is further into PLT than Java.
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Replying to @tqbf @KirinDave
The problem isn’t that Go is *bad*…it’s that it could have been a lot better, and a lot of that is directly traceable to Pike’s personality.
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Replying to @pcwalton @KirinDave
Right, but you can’t say Java is more engaged with PLT than Golang without acknowledging the technical reality of both languages, and that’s what you’re implying.
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This is my basic issue with anti-Go sentiment. If it was anti-Go anti-Java anti-Python anti-Ruby I would sort of get it (maybe even if JS was left out!). But it’s not; its JUST Go that drives people nuts, and Go is in some ways a better language than the rest of that cohort.
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My mental model of the median anti-Go person is someone who writes Clojure or Haskell on side projects and has a day-job comfortably turning out Python. Which, because I am a nerd, drives me a little nuts, because Go is unquestionably better than Python.
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I tend to shy away from comparing static and dynamic languages on principle, but sure, I think your stance is legitimate. We get a lot of dumb criticism from Haskell developers too, particularly “why not monads”.
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