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    1. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 29 Nov 2018
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      This is a bad look, dude.

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    2. ⏐ Τhе Αnⅽⅰеnt Вооеr ⏐‏ @KirinDave 29 Nov 2018
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      Someone literally said this as part of a public argument. Do you think I'm making it up?

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    3. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 29 Nov 2018
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      It’s the Internet. People say all sorts of things. Also: everyone knows Go is getting some kind of generics. The real point of the comment is just that you don’t like the Go community. Not a great look.

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    4. ⏐ Τhе Αnⅽⅰеnt Вооеr ⏐‏ @KirinDave 29 Nov 2018
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      I do not like folks in the Golang commt saying, "The datatypes we have are fine for me and anyone else can go fuck themselves." Absolutely. I don't. I hope their hairs ingrow.

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    5. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 29 Nov 2018
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      I never really saw this kind of anger when, for instance, Java was debating closures. Somehow Go just really sets PL enthusiasts off. It’s weird, because Go is _far_ from the worst mainstream language (looking at you ruby)

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    6. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Nov 2018
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      Java embraced PLT, but Go’s designers, particularly Pike, have always been pretty openly contemptuous of the entire PL community. The PL community is reacting in kind. It’s a dumb rivalry in many ways, I agree.

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    7. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 29 Nov 2018
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      I mean, just be clear that you’re talking STRICTLY about personality. There are ways in which Golang (as a language) is further into PLT than Java.

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    8. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Nov 2018
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      The problem isn’t that Go is *bad*…it’s that it could have been a lot better, and a lot of that is directly traceable to Pike’s personality.

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    9. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 29 Nov 2018
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      Right, but you can’t say Java is more engaged with PLT than Golang without acknowledging the technical reality of both languages, and that’s what you’re implying.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 29 Nov 2018
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      Java 1.0 was more disengaged from PLT than Go 1.0 was—I won’t argue with that. (Java’s generics are a different story.)

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