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    1. Graydon Hoare‏ @graydon_pub 1 Nov 2018
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      I dislike this background suspicious-adversarial framing of interviews, and regret the extent to which I’ve perpetuated it, but I suspect it can only really change if the whole structure of the employment relationship changes with it. We live in very transactional times.https://twitter.com/sarahmei/status/1058215315031486464 …

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      Sarah MeiVerified account @sarahmei
      We need a sea change in engineering interviews. Our prevailing model, which is roughly “candidate proves things to us,” is dehumanizing, inefficient, and oh by the way DOESN’T ACTUALLY WORK.
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    2. Sam Tobin-Hochstadt‏ @samth 2 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @graydon_pub

      Academic interviews aren't adversarial in this way, even though the stakes for applicants are often higher.

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    3. Steve Canon‏ @stephentyrone 2 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @samth @graydon_pub

      The flipside is that academic interviews *really* perpetuate networks of privilege; you need to have a very specific pedigree to get your foot in the door, while industry is much more willing to interview basically anyone.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 2 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @stephentyrone @samth @graydon_pub

      Well, industry has a fair bit of credentialism too. I’ve read compelling arguments that there really isn’t a labor shortage of programmers; it’s that credentialism excludes too many qualified applicants.

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        1. Steve Canon‏ @stephentyrone 2 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @pcwalton @samth @graydon_pub

          Academia goes way beyond credentialism. The right advisor / mentor gets your foot in the door for jobs before they're ever listed publicly. This is also somewhat true for industry, but nothing like in academia.

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