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    1. Steve Canon‏ @stephentyrone 19 Jul 2018
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      I am really curious who the users for this would be. Game devs who don’t want middleware? Application devs who insist on building the UI from scratch?

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    2. Corentin‏ @Cor3ntin 19 Jul 2018
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      People pushed "teaching" as one of the motivational use cases

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    3. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 19 Jul 2018
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      OK, but the justification for the standard was weird policies around third-party code at big game studios. That’s pretty far removed from the teaching use case.

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    4. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 19 Jul 2018
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      As far as I understood the claimed consumers were - students - people who just want to put things on the screen (say, to do a graph) I don't disagree with helping them. I like things on the screen. That being said, I see flaws with the now-defunct proposal: (...con't)

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    5. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 19 Jul 2018
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      Flaws: - teaches the wrong thing - can't even put text on my axis I'd much rather have something that'll be similar to what high-end graphics are like (batching comes to mind). And I want all the complex stuff like text... understanding that it's complex!

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    6. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 19 Jul 2018
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      To me starting at the high level feels like putting the cart before the horse. Start with the basics, like what SDL gives you. See if that gains traction. Then go up the stack.

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    7. Corentin‏ @Cor3ntin 19 Jul 2018
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      One issue is that nothing is simple about graphics or SDL. Probably an order of magnitude more complex than anything the committee worked on so far.

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    8. Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 19 Jul 2018
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      Yes, that brings me to my next point: There has to be some point at which you draw the line and say “this is no longer the C++ committee’s responsibility, it’s Khronos’”. Otherwise the C++ committee will grow to absorb everything.

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    9. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 19 Jul 2018
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      How much should be in a C++ Graphics library? At some point, we have to draw a line — @blelbach
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    10. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 19 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @jfbastien @pcwalton and

      More seriously: doesn't have to be Khronos. Diet Graphics said SVG. Deferring to other standards is totally OK. See date / time, regex, Unicode, etc.

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      Patrick Walton‏ @pcwalton 19 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @jfbastien @Cor3ntin and

      IMO Khronos is going to be the most important group to get on board, because that’s how people render 2D nowadays. Even things designed for non-programmers, like Game Maker, use the 3D hardware. Not to mention browsers.

      4:25 PM - 19 Jul 2018 from South Beach, San Francisco
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        1. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 19 Jul 2018
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          Gotta move from Twitter Opinions to actual engagement then ☺️ Botond has been representing Mozilla for a while, you should reach out!

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