Can we find them with the Rust users not using Cargo, JS users not using NPM or the assembly programmers not using the c stdlib or OS libs? Or the c++ devs stuck in 03 or with no stl? Because those exist too, and won't be helped either way.
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Replying to @dascandy42 @ArvidGerstmann and
You can certainly find them on the BSI C++ panel. Indeed, I can't use third party code at my studio without considerable hoop jumping.
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Replying to @hatcat01 @dascandy42 and
Is that a technical (build / package management ) or a legal issue?
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Replying to @hatcat01 @MatRopert and
Fix your legal approval process. I deal with the same legal restrictions you do and have rarely run into legal hurdles.
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Replying to @grafikrobot @MatRopert and
It's not about MY legal approval process, it's about patent trolls.
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Replying to @hatcat01 @grafikrobot and
Sadly patent trolls are a real threat. Though, how can you be sure the code you write yourself is free of patents?
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Replying to @ArvidGerstmann @hatcat01 and
I definitely do not think the burden of protecting companies from patent trolls should be put on the committee (indirectly by dumping more libs into the standard)
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Replying to @Cor3ntin @ArvidGerstmann and
What then is the purpose of library evolution? And do you think C++ has too many users? Shouldn’t we be growing our community by outreach to and support of the broadest set of programmers?
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1. Good question, 2. No, 3. Yes. But the broader the user base the least effective a single global library, ie stdlib, is at solving their problems. Hence you need a large and varied set of solutions, ie many libraries, to serve all users.
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Just for what it’s worth, I can pretty much guarantee you no browser engine will use whatever you come up with in the committee for 2D graphics. We browsers are probably the largest users of 2D graphics.
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Replying to @pcwalton @grafikrobot and
I brought up that point at the committee meeting. Browsers were clearly not a target for the proposal, and nobody was surprised by my statement.
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Replying to @jfbastien @grafikrobot and
So does the committee want users or not?
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