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Nobel laureate. Op-Ed columnist, @nytopinion. Author, “The Return of Depression Economics,” “The Great Unraveling,” "Arguing With Zombies," + more.

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    1. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      I’m going to do a delayed update on a tweet from 9/11 that sparked a lot of outrage. Before I start, however, let me give you some data from the FBI’s hate crimes database, showing victims of hate crimes by motivation in selected years. https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime  1/pic.twitter.com/rMFNwEG6UU

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    2. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      A caveat: the “anti-Islamic” category understates the real total, because there was also a rise in hate crimes based on “national origin/ethnicity,” some of which was surely anti-Arab and anti-groups confused with Arabs, such as Sikhs. But it won't change the basic picture. 2/

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    3. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      I wrote that “there wasn't a mass outbreak of anti-Muslim sentiment and violence.” I didn’t mean that there was no outbreak, but that it wasn’t as severe as one might have expected and feared. Maybe my point would have been clearer if I had provided the data above. 3/

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    4. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      To understand what might have happened, consider what has happened under Trump, with rising hate crimes against individuals without any motivating event 4/

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    5. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      Link: 5/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/hate-crimes-fbi-report.html …pic.twitter.com/9tLzBPisO2

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    6. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      Oh, and the Iraq war wasn't about mass prejudice. It was an elite project that exploited 9/11 and fear of terrorism (even though the ostensible justification was WMD), but I don’t think you can cite it to justify claims that the American people as a whole reacted badly. 6/

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    7. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      And for the record, I stuck my neck way out at the time pointing out that we were being lied into war. 7/

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    8. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      The key thing to understand is that prejudice and hate crimes are a constant part of the American scene — not an excuse, just an observation, but part of the background to interpreting history 8/

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      Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

      Let me give you that bar graph again. The post-9/11 upsurge in hate crimes against Muslims was real and unforgivable, but the horrible truth is that it didn’t loom that large compared with what Blacks face year in and year out. 9/pic.twitter.com/Wrnt8xQnZJ

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        1. Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman 13 Sep 2020

          And it could have been much worse. Imagine what would have happened if someone like Trump had been president. So I stand by my original point: the national response to 9/11 was better than one might have feared. 10/

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        1. In Excelsis Deekins‏ @TheDeekins 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @paulkrugman

          hey Paul I noticed you're still going at this, so quick question: what about all the non-American Muslims that were killed and harmed? do they not matter?

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        2. Gildedtongue‏ @gildedtongue 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @AtThisMomentNow @paulkrugman

          Paul thinks that if he keeps digging down enough, he might start digging up.pic.twitter.com/rF7QVBdbVy

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        2. Jason Grossman‏ @JasonGThoughts 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @paulkrugman

          I get your point (bad doesn’t mean as bad as could be) but this graph is pointless without a denominator. There are way more black people in America than Muslim people.

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        3. Idreamnsweaters‏ @idreamnsweaters 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @JasonGThoughts @paulkrugman

          Black Muslims exist

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        2. Andrew Stein‏ @andrew_stein 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @paulkrugman

          You know the black population was 30x larger in 2000, right?

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        3. dandroid20xx‏ @dandroid20XX 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @andrew_stein @IPM_HQ @paulkrugman

          All year 2000 census estimates I've seen put the number between 1.75 - 3.5 million people so between around 10 - 18x the population, for examplehttps://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2011/08/30/section-1-a-demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/ …

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        2. Mei-mei. Beat Covid‏ @mei_mei14 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @paulkrugman

          These graphs are total numbers reported. What about percentage of the respective minority population? If Muslim population is just a fraction of black population, but experienced violence increase by a few fold after 9/11, well...you get it.

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        3. dandroid20xx‏ @dandroid20XX 13 Sep 2020
          Replying to @mei_mei14 @paulkrugman

          The Black population of the US is x4.5 larger than the Muslim population (sort of...as of course a significant number of Muslims are also Black)

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