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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Sep 2017

    European politicians like startups in principle, but individual startups they want to crush.

    3:45 AM - 22 Sep 2017
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    • Annett Traugott Spencer Greene Antonio García Martínez William Rode Prasanna Venkatesh 🤘🏻 Charlie Starnes Mudit Tanwani Sam Hardwick Steffen W. Frølund
    38 replies 131 retweets 471 likes
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      2. Dag-Erling Smørgrav‏ @RealEvilDES 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Europe values things like worker and consumer safety, paying employees a living wage, paid sick leave and parental leave, etc.

        1 reply 0 retweets 37 likes
      3. Dag-Erling Smørgrav‏ @RealEvilDES 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @RealEvilDES @paulg

        When a startup's business model is completely dependent on ignoring or circumventing these principles, Europe says thanks but no thanks.

        3 replies 0 retweets 27 likes
      4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @RealEvilDES

        A lot of people would like to believe this is why Uber wins, but the real reason is that it's more convenient for users.

        6 replies 5 retweets 46 likes
      5. Dag-Erling Smørgrav‏ @RealEvilDES 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Simply not true. Uber succeeds by exploiting its drivers so it can afford to undercut its competitors, and by bamboozling the public.

        2 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
      6. Dag-Erling Smørgrav‏ @RealEvilDES 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @RealEvilDES @paulg

        Traditional taxi companies in Norway (where Uber is illegal) have ordering and tracking apps, precomputed and prepaid fares, etc.

        3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      7. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @RealEvilDES

        I'm not claiming Uber's features only work for Uber. Of course they also work when copied sufficiently well by another organization.

        3 replies 1 retweet 20 likes
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      2. Mostafa Nageeb‏ @MostafaNageeb 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        I don't understand the argument of underpaying drivers, what are they gonna do when autonomous cars take over?

        3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @MostafaNageeb

        Ban them claiming they're unsafe, of course.

        0 replies 1 retweet 27 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Reinaldo Normand‏Verified account @rnormand 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Europe lost their way. They hate to lose to American tech companies and regulation is their only weapon.

        3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @rnormand

        I don't think it's so deliberate. I think it's merely that overregulation and the tall poppy syndrome are established habits.

        1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
      4. Reinaldo Normand‏Verified account @rnormand 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        I think it is an unconscious bias.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Chris Rauch‏ @mighty_value 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        And the American way is the carte blanche just because it's a 'startup'? Yeah, that works well #theranos #zenefits #hamptoncreek etc etc

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @mighty_value

        Far from it; vested interests have huge power in the US as well.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. Chris Rauch‏ @mighty_value 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Agree, but if vested interests steer the ship in the wrong direction, a little checks and balances can be quite healthy I think

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      1. Giuseppe Ottaviano‏ @ot_y 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Can we stop spinning Uber as a startup?

        0 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
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      1. Matt Richardson‏ @Squire_Matt 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Hope you're not commenting re uber? A greedy unscrupulous taxi company that's refusing to abide by the same rules as everyone else?

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      2. Stefano Barazzetta‏ @stebaraz 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        For Uber it's time to grow up or to break up. Playtime is over.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Jacob Lyles‏ @jacoblyles 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @stebaraz @paulg

        Playtime is precisely where startups create the most value, explore the most ground

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Stefano Barazzetta‏ @stebaraz 22 Sep 2017
        Replying to @jacoblyles @paulg

        Value created by Uber so far: zero. And, by the way, Uber ceased to be a startup a long, long time ago.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Molawa Adesuyi‏ @MolawaAdesuyi 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @stebaraz @jacoblyles @paulg

        Strongly disagree; Uber creates value every single day. Try being stuck in the middle of London at 2am without ability to e-hail

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Davide 'Folletto' Casali‏ @Folletto 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @MolawaAdesuyi @stebaraz and

        Gett? MyTaxi? Addison Lee? I consistently avoid Uber when I can and never had issues getting home at 2am. Why aren’t you using alternatives?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Molawa Adesuyi‏ @MolawaAdesuyi 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Folletto @stebaraz and

        When I'm in the valley I use Lyft,but in London,uber undoubtedly has more drivers.The point is EU government's fear of startups that disrupt

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Davide 'Folletto' Casali‏ @Folletto 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @MolawaAdesuyi @stebaraz and

        EU doesn’t have such a fear, sorry: the proof is simple as there are quite a few competitors operating legally in London. Only Uber is hit.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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