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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Jul 2017

    One reason nontechnical founders have a higher failure rate is simply that they have to pay one more programmer's salary.

    1:02 AM - 16 Jul 2017
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      2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        There are lots of successful startups that came within a programmer's salary of running out of money. Airbnb did.

        15 replies 97 retweets 440 likes
      3. Krishna Kumar‏ @kkaction 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Many Silicon Valley companies outsource product development to Bangalore! To solve this.

        3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. prashantsachdev‏ @prashantsachdev 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @kkaction @paulg

        Many non-tech entrepreneurs work with failed tech entrepreneurs in India to solve this problem.

        0 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
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      2. Guy Gal‏ @guygal 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        If value margin is that thin that business not worth building anyway

        2 replies 2 retweets 24 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @guygal

        That is so wrong. There are plenty of startups where the evolutionary bottleneck is less than a programmer's salary wide. E.g Airbnb.

        5 replies 1 retweet 66 likes
      4. Guy Gal‏ @guygal 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        it is so much more wrong to claim paying one more engineering salary leads to a higher failure rate, irresponsible to followers

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. Furqan Rydhan‏ @FurqanR 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @guygal @paulg

        Early days, any salary may increase failure rate. Irresponsible to ignore that how you spend $ may affect startup outcome.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Guy Gal‏ @guygal 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @FurqanR @paulg

        Startup is capital deployment, yes

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Vinod Khosla‏Verified account @vkhosla 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Would love to see the data. I suspect certain kinds of startups harder for them to imagine what is possible.

        7 replies 7 retweets 62 likes
      3. Mike Ghaffary‏ @newmike 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @vkhosla @paulg

        My analogy is if you want to make great music but don't excel in an instrument or singing. You might still pull it off, but much harder.

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      4. Mike Ghaffary‏ @newmike 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @newmike @vkhosla @paulg

        and getting people together for band practice without paying them is even harder when you aren't a big musical contributor yourself.

        1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
      5. Ashok P Masilamani‏ @maps_tweets 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @newmike @vkhosla @paulg

        True to some extent. Successful music bands have been formed by record producers. Can't generalize startup success with founder's tech skill

        2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      6. Ashok P Masilamani‏ @maps_tweets 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @maps_tweets @newmike and

        IMO tech founder or not mediocrity plays a big role in failure rates. And of course luck plays a big role :)

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Anthony Rose‏Verified account @anthonyrose 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Disagree. That's a trivial cost. The much larger reason is they can't articulate their vision in a language that their developers can action

        3 replies 2 retweets 29 likes
      3. Namit Chadha‏ @namitchadha 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @anthonyrose @paulg

        That ignores the amount of iteration and design required to get stuff off the group. No amount of 'articulation' will let you skip that.

        0 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
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      2. Andy Crouch‏ @amcrouch 16 Jul 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        I think their technical ignorance is more costly.

        1 reply 1 retweet 24 likes
      3. Tylney Taylor‏ @TylneyT 17 Jul 2017
        Replying to @amcrouch @paulg

        Likewise they are not bound by "what is technically possible"

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Andy Crouch‏ @amcrouch 17 Jul 2017
        Replying to @TylneyT @paulg

        Neither are the tech folks, they can validate the chance of making a vision happen more realistically. Still plenty of value for non techies

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Tylney Taylor‏ @TylneyT 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @amcrouch @paulg

        True, only with contrast do markings on a page become visible and maybe create meaning. Collaboration rather than competition...

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Andy Crouch‏ @amcrouch 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @TylneyT @paulg

        Totally agree although I do not think that was the intention of @paulg original remark.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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