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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 May 2017

    One thing young people don't pay enough attention to when deciding what to work on is how you win in each type of job.

    3:09 AM - 19 May 2017
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      2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        All other things being equal, most people will be happier working where you win by doing good work.

        6 replies 62 retweets 255 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        The young don't realize how rare such jobs are. Partly because they're naive, and partly because it's deliberately hidden from them.

        16 replies 30 retweets 199 likes
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      2. Nadav Keyson‏ @NadavKeyson 19 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        What do you mean by winning?

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      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 May 2017
        Replying to @NadavKeyson

        There's usually a clear consensus in each case.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Alex Silverman‏ @Silverman63 19 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg @NadavKeyson

        Definitely not easy to express. I think easiest definition is "what would need to happen that there's no question I did amazing work?"

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Jen Roxx‏ @RoxxJen 20 May 2017
        Replying to @Silverman63 @paulg @NadavKeyson

        I love this definition. Thanks! Was struggling how one "wins" at a more vocational career.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Scott Burton‏ @scottburton 19 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg @ChrisKGraham

        You can't "pay attention" to something that's deliberately hidden, until you discover it. Then you're part of it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Chris Graham‏ @ChrisKGraham 19 May 2017
        Replying to @scottburton @paulg

        That's why two tweets later he said it's often deliberately hidden.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Scott Burton‏ @scottburton 19 May 2017
        Replying to @ChrisKGraham

        Then you see my concern.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Chris Graham‏ @ChrisKGraham 19 May 2017
        Replying to @scottburton

        The point isn't solving for it, it's asking better questions and valuing the right things. You won't do that if you don't bother.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Scott Burton‏ @scottburton 19 May 2017
        Replying to @ChrisKGraham

        I read this as "you should pay attention to invisibles as you make your early career moves" which seems like founder-speak to me

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. Chris Graham‏ @ChrisKGraham 19 May 2017
        Replying to @scottburton

        Or, just ask the question. Of your boss, of employees. Even small companies have reps. It's not perfect, but it's better than alternative

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. John Tyree‏ @hiptobecubic 19 May 2017
        Replying to @ChrisKGraham @scottburton

        And be fed a bunch of garbage. Who is going to answer that question with truth, "screw as many idiots out of their paychecks as possible?"

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      1. Richard Clinton Love‏ @HighLeveluk 19 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        You are right Mr. Paul Graham

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      1. David Evans‏ @misterdevans 19 May 2017
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        Sort of like... Find what you love. Do that. It will never be work.

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      1. Sergio Adames Gomez‏ @SergioAdamesG 20 May 2017
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        Because no one teaches them what 'win' really means (beyond show off and make money); and how to win for themselves and the society

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      1. Bill Selly‏ @bill_selly 19 May 2017
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        Could you please explain what you mean by "win when you do good work?" Aren't most jobs like that?

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