Listen to the weak who say the world has treated them unfairly, but be skeptical of powerful people who say the same thing.
It works very well to point out that something shouldn't be done because it wouldn't be fair. One of the first ideas they're rational about.
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Huh. I'll have to try that. What age did you first see that in yours?
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I've had some success with "eat some rice and then you can have cheese" persuasion.
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