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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 5 May 2017

    Prediction: No startup run by a founder who is also running a fund on the side will be a big success.

    11:56 PM - 5 May 2017
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      2. Sam Altman‏Verified account @sama 6 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        When I hear that the founder of a company I think could take over the world is running a fund on the side, EV goes down 10x in my head :(

        10 replies 19 retweets 141 likes
      3. JerkoffCEO‏ @JerkoffCEO 6 May 2017
        Replying to @sama @paulg

        Why? Or do you guys prefer not having reasons for your claims?

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 7 May 2017
        Replying to @JerkoffCEO @sama

        Because no one who expected their startup to do well would put up with the crap entailed in running a fund.

        0 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
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      2. Rajat Suri‏ @rajatsuri 6 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        how about a founder who is also running another startup or two? Seems to be in fashion these days

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 6 May 2017
        Replying to @rajatsuri

        That's arguably running a conglomerate, which empirically seems to work.

        2 replies 2 retweets 13 likes
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      2. Joseph Philleo‏ @PhilleoJ 5 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Palantir

        2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 6 May 2017
        Replying to @PhilleoJ

        Alex Karp has a fund?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Joseph Philleo‏ @PhilleoJ 6 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Better example: Amazon

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 6 May 2017
        Replying to @PhilleoJ

        Surely Bezos isn't running a fund either? (Merely investing is not running a fund. A fund means LPs.)

        3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      6. Joseph Philleo‏ @PhilleoJ 6 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Bezos Expeditions looks like more than "merely investing" -- enough big wins to make "real" funds jealous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos#Bezos_Expeditions …

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Jack Smith‏Verified account @_jacksmith 6 May 2017
        Replying to @PhilleoJ @paulg

        Bezos isn't running Bezos Expeditions; he's hired a team to run it

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Joseph Philleo‏ @PhilleoJ 6 May 2017
        Replying to @_jacksmith @paulg

        Early on (when Amazon was a startup), Bezos was essentially in charge (e.g. he got himself into Google). Biggest nuance is his no LPs.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Jack Smith‏Verified account @_jacksmith 6 May 2017
        Replying to @PhilleoJ @paulg

        himself, with no LPs is more like angel investing. running a fund you have to manage LPs etc

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. David Hodge  🚀‏ @DavidHodge 5 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        Similar thoughts on founders that invest their own money? (Not from LPs)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 6 May 2017
        Replying to @DavidHodge

        No, that seems ok.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. Stephen Young‏ @StephenKYoung 6 May 2017
        Replying to @paulg

        How about Opendoor and @rabois ? Seems to be working well for him

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Keith Rabois‏ @rabois 6 May 2017
        Replying to @StephenKYoung @paulg

        Workday did quite well.

        1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
      4.  🤔@ 🇱🇺‏ @VineetDevaiah 6 May 2017
        Replying to @rabois @StephenKYoung @paulg

        Unfortunately he doesn't have to work as hard for the same things as most founders .. namely networks/money/klout

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Keith Rabois‏ @rabois 6 May 2017
        Replying to @VineetDevaiah @StephenKYoung @paulg

        I work harder.

        3 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
      6.  🤔@ 🇱🇺‏ @VineetDevaiah 6 May 2017
        Replying to @rabois @StephenKYoung @paulg

        Debatable ! No hard facts here. But existing network and access to money 💰 is more measurable

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Keith Rabois‏ @rabois 6 May 2017
        Replying to @VineetDevaiah @StephenKYoung @paulg

        Yes. But this because I work harder. Less than a week vacation from 1995-2013.

        2 replies 0 retweets 31 likes
      8. Matt Bond‏ @MattBond21 6 May 2017
        Replying to @rabois @VineetDevaiah and

        One week vacay in 20 years isn't a badge of honor. That's just insanity.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Keith Rabois‏ @rabois 6 May 2017
        Replying to @MattBond21 @VineetDevaiah and

        That is how you become successful. See Belichick's speech at the parade in Boston.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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