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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 12 Dec 2016

    Did anyone else find it odd that Russia needed a phish to hack Podesta? I assumed nations had enough 0-days to get root on any machine.

    10:40 AM - 12 Dec 2016
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      2. Ryan King‏ @rk 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        probably much easier to phish

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      3. James Waldrop‏ @HiveTheory 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @rk @paulg

        It also preserves cut-out deniability if you can do it without using proprietary GRU solutions.

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      1. rst‏ @rsthau 12 Dec 2016
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        Why burn an 0-day if phishing will work?

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      1. alex lanstein‏ @alex_lanstein 12 Dec 2016
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        gmail with 2 factor is damn good. 3rd party app auth is way easier and harder to attribute (dfir companies arent getting google logs)

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      1. Jeff Whelpley‏ @jeffwhelpley 12 Dec 2016
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        neither side would want it to be known if Russia had root access

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      1. Erik the Hun‏ @evilcyber 12 Dec 2016
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        why burn a 0-day if you don't have to? Alternate theory: misattribution.

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      1. Rᴏʙᴇʀᴛ Aɴᴅᴇʀsᴏɴ‏ @ProfRobAnderson 12 Dec 2016
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        .@paulg Or maybe instead of Russia it's a kid in Azerbaijan just trying to steal credit cards and SSNs who only later realized what he had.

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      1. Scott Calvert‏ @MooseFather 12 Dec 2016
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        Better deniability via phishing? Use of a high value 0-day dramatically reduces set of plausible attackers.

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      1. Dean Ivanov‏ @dean_ivanov 12 Dec 2016
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        Hackers sent dimple phishing link to DNC. And 1/3 or them clicked it. @bozhobg

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      1. Max Kesin‏ @nlpnyc 12 Dec 2016
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        without a phish how would they know the right machine to hack?

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