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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 12 Dec 2016

    Did anyone else find it odd that Russia needed a phish to hack Podesta? I assumed nations had enough 0-days to get root on any machine.

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      2. Eugene Kogan‏ @eugk 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        .@paulg Attackers go with what works best, not wasting 0-days unless it's necessary. Phishing is very effective and cheap.

        1 reply 3 retweets 17 likes
      3. Singularitybooks‏ @Singularitybook 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @eugk @paulg

        imagine burning a 0 day on p@ssw0rd

        0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. Arthur Peeters‏ @arthpeeters 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        Did anyone else find it odd how easily smart people bought the conspiracy theory that Russia hacked US elections with no evidence?

        2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
      3. craigsuperstar‏ @craigsuperstar 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @arthpeeters @paulg

        I also found it odd that it wasn't a big deal for two months, then was.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Arthur Peeters‏ @arthpeeters 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @craigsuperstar @paulg

        Apparently conspiracy theories are like cult movies: appreciated long after the initial theater run.

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      2. Ryan King‏ @rk 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        probably much easier to phish

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      3. James Waldrop‏ @HiveTheory 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @rk @paulg

        It also preserves cut-out deniability if you can do it without using proprietary GRU solutions.

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      1. Tim Brown‏ @timb_machine 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        You don't waste 0day on people who click things.

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      1. Chris Graham‏ @ChrisKGraham 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        no need to break out the big guns if a simpler tool works, right?

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      1. Ξwoki, GITer of Coins, Shiller of Colorado‏ @owocki 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        not for a gmail account. but social engineering is easier than breaking encryption

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      1. Scott Calvert‏ @MooseFather 12 Dec 2016
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        Better deniability via phishing? Use of a high value 0-day dramatically reduces set of plausible attackers.

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      1. Jeff Whelpley‏ @jeffwhelpley 12 Dec 2016
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        neither side would want it to be known if Russia had root access

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      1. rst‏ @rsthau 12 Dec 2016
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        Why burn an 0-day if phishing will work?

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      1. Kurt Marko 🤔 🇺🇸‏ @krmarko 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        Wasn't it his Gmail account?

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      1. Dave Venable‏ @davevenable 12 Dec 2016
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        .@paulg Why (1) limit the number of potential attackers by demonstrating sophistication? and (2) why waste a 0-day where phishing works?

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      1. Randall Koutnik‏ @rkoutnik 12 Dec 2016
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        Might have been easier to phish without risking a 0-day? I assume they tried several techniques, that one worked.

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      1. Pasha ®‏ @pashabitz 12 Dec 2016
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        why waste 0-day if simpler method works

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      1. max kesin‏ @nlpnyc 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        without a phish how would they know the right machine to hack?

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      1. Dean Ivanov‏ @dean_ivanov 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        Hackers sent dimple phishing link to DNC. And 1/3 or them clicked it. @bozhobg

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      1. NPC-NMKD-CITIZN-172192905437‏ @mindinmotionmkd 12 Dec 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        Hey @BrowningMachine :)))

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