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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 15 Nov 2016

    Why do you need algorithms to catch fake news? Surely there's a power law distribution. Why not use humans to catch the worst instances?

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      2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 15 Nov 2016
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        If you want to avoid accusations of bias, have a nonprofit third-party organization do it.

        21 replies 9 retweets 67 likes
      3. James 'Crypto Listing Fees' Clark  🎃 😱 🤦🏼‍♂️‏ @mr_james_c 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        In today's highly politicised... everything... can you name a nonprofit 3rd-party organisation universally considered unbiased?

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      2. Marek Fodor‏ @fodor 15 Nov 2016
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        because they scale better?

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      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 15 Nov 2016
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        With a power law distribution you don't need scale.

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      4. Marek Fodor‏ @fodor 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        The distribution will evolve. You need algo filters for sustained success. Also imagine the uproar (human filters = censors...)

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      2. Matt Cutts‏Verified account @mattcutts 15 Nov 2016
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        that would work.

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      3. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 15 Nov 2016
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        how would it work? a) filter bubble means the "right" people won't see and b) they *want* the false stuff to be true

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      1. Brent Mulligan‏ @brentmulligan 15 Nov 2016
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        Google cutting off ad income takes away most incentives. Seems < controversial for human make that decision than the distro decision.

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      1. Rahul M‏ @rahulMporium 15 Nov 2016
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        as usual, every 21st century media critique returns to the base case: how do we separate signal from noise without bias

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      1. codyb‏Verified account @CodyBrown 15 Nov 2016
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        could not agree more. FB tried this already but got uncomfortable when the right accused them of biashttp://gizmodo.com/facebooks-fight-against-fake-news-was-undercut-by-fear-1788808204 …

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      1. Rob Zepeda‏ @robzepeda 15 Nov 2016
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        wasn't PageRank supposed to solve this? 🤔

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      1. Max‏ @maxua 15 Nov 2016
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        .@paulg who decides what is fake news? E.g. is Russia Today is fake news or not? How about a story on climate change?

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      1. Mark Rogowsky‏ @maxrogo 15 Nov 2016
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        I think you may be naive here about power of the echo chamber. Fake news rocketed on Facebook when it delivered the "right" message

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      1. Ben Perreau‏Verified account @perreau 15 Nov 2016
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        A thorny subject! We discussed this at many big News orgs, it's probably FB's foundational bias. Slow humans still work best for now.

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      1. Sam McLeod‏ @s_mcleod 15 Nov 2016
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        IMO so much of the fake / generated then decimated news people experience exist within their self created bubbles on social media

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      1. Dave Booth‏ @DaveBooth 16 Nov 2016
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        not sure if you're asking seriously or in jest....

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      1. Nirmal‏ @_nirmzworld 16 Nov 2016
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        they do - user ops. but only as good as the tools they're given

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      1. Kelsey Hannan‏ @Kelsoh 15 Nov 2016
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        How do you deal with unproven conspiracies or conjecture? Truth is relative. Even fact checkers go overboard: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-fact-checkers-keep-destroying-fact-checking/article/2604163 …

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