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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016

      Few have done more than Sam Altman to defeat Trump.

      46 replies 44 retweets 331 likes
    2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @paulg

      So if Sam's not firing Peter Thiel is the high bit of his reputation for you, you prize orthodoxy over actions.

      15 replies 9 retweets 135 likes
    3. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @paulg

      "firing" is a completely false equivalency.

      1 reply 1 retweet 33 likes
    4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @codinghorror

      It's the word YC uses internally. Do you really think *this* is the crux of the issue, morally?

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    5. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @paulg

      surely Thiel is an advisor, not an employee to be fired. Nike sometimes distances itself from certain athletes based on behavior.

      2 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
    6. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @codinghorror

      Being an employee gives you legal protections against being fired, but surely that's separate from the moral question.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

      It gives you moral protections, too.

      0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @tqbf @codinghorror

      So would it be ok for a group of *peers* like university faculty to fire one who supported the wrong candidate?

      3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    9. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @paulg @tqbf

      yet again, the false equivalency of "fire" versus "distance yourself from".

      3 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
    10. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @codinghorror @tqbf

      You keep saying "distance," but you're using it to mean what people would colloquially call firing someone.

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @paulg @codinghorror @tqbf

      Would you just email me please? This is not a good medium for real conversation.

      2:33 PM - 18 Oct 2016
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        2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          I defer to @tqbf because I don't have strong feelings on this, other than "firing" a billionaire is kind of a ridiculous concept

          3 replies 2 retweets 20 likes
        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @codinghorror @tqbf

          Whatever moral obligations one has to other people, surely they don't stop when they are rich.

          2 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
        4. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          I presume @tqbf will take it to email. But the powerful do not need (or deserve) the same protections that the weak do.

          2 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
        5. Sarah☭Szalavitz‏ @dearsarah 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @codinghorror @paulg @tqbf

          Please don't move to email. Having this conversation in public matters, particularly to those voices not included

          1 reply 1 retweet 16 likes
        6. Stark. Tony Stark.‏ @segebee 22 Oct 2016
          Replying to @dearsarah @codinghorror and

          just seems stupid to victimize thiel cos you hate Trump. It's a democracy. He has his rights

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Sarah☭Szalavitz‏ @dearsarah 22 Oct 2016
          Replying to @segebee @codinghorror and

          Is Thiel being "victimized" or being held accountable for financially supporting a threat to democracy?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Stark. Tony Stark.‏ @segebee 22 Oct 2016
          Replying to @dearsarah

          if Trump is a threat to democracy, how about a secretary of state who deletes classified emails

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        1. Ian MacDonald‏ @icpmacdo 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror @tqbf

          They can't virtue signal on email! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling …

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        1. Susan Sons‏ @HedgeMage 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          Don't think I have a good email for you. I'd like to join the convo if you don't mind...DM or @codinghorror probably has my email.

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        1. Dennis Ideler‏ @dideler 19 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror @tqbf

          this is definitely not a conversation for twitter, especially when hordes of followers are joining mid-convo

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        1. Nick Henderson‏ @Nick_Henderson 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          Paul, I respect and your opinion and what Sam has done AND I believe @ekp is right. Trump is dangerous & Thiel off the rails.

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