Few have done more than Sam Altman to defeat Trump.
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"firing" is a completely false equivalency.
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It's the word YC uses internally. Do you really think *this* is the crux of the issue, morally?
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Is it ok to fire (or whatever word) a visiting professor for supporting the wrong candidate, but not a regular one?
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(Do you even know what a part time partner at YC does?)
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not to get all Godwin but would it be ok to do business with someone who helped Hitler?
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is there some instance in which you'd say "I won't do business with you"? If so, there must be a line to be crossed.
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Trump would revert marriage equality and ban all abortions. That's a pretty big deal.
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Believing he’s making a mistake doesn’t make that the high bit of his reputation. Not how high bits work.
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I used that metaphor deliberately.
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Fair enough! Just remember what Marx said about contradictions: increase their Hamming Weight!
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this whole idea of firing or separating w/ someone based on their political support is the most alt-left thing yet.
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Depends on the situation. This is worth a read https://medium.com/projectinclude/peter-thiel-yc-and-hard-decisions-2b91bab83764#.mjxx0ojgr …
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Great read and glad that orgs are doing what is right for their mission!
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I do believe there is a huge diff btwn firing someone b/c they don't reflect values and firing someone b/c they donated.
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Agreed and it's also possible that someone's distasteful beliefs have nothing to do with their role, so not job-related.
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The worst thing about this whole thing has been your defensiveness. Stop acting like it's not a complicated issue.
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Thiel is not just an 'employee.' People would be reacting a lot differently if you hinted at any kind of struggle in your thinking.
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Instead you've generally been shitty and defensive and claimed continued association with Thiel is the most natural thing possible.
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i guess you have no idea what boasting about sexual assault means for YC. Oh and the KKK endorses the guy.
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you know that there are also ethics behind not shunning Thiel? You not sharing them doesnt make them invalid.
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I’m not calling for a shunning. I’m calling for a course correction. Not encouraging bad behavior. That’s all.
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Whatever you call it and whatever you think is right - I addressed the "ethics over money" argument.
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well, if you think it’s ethical to stand with friends who make damaging choices to others. Any rational person would question you
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And the whole "tolerate somebodys opinion even if you disagree" is not a decision based on ethics?
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not when someone is talking about assaulting another human. No. Seriously? Okay…let me put it another way.
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