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    1. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016

      Few have done more than Sam Altman to defeat Trump.

      46 replies 44 retweets 331 likes
      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016

      So if Sam's not firing Peter Thiel is the high bit of his reputation for you, you prize orthodoxy over actions.

      9:43 AM - 18 Oct 2016
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      15 replies 9 retweets 135 likes
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        2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          "firing" is a completely false equivalency.

          1 reply 1 retweet 33 likes
        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @codinghorror

          It's the word YC uses internally. Do you really think *this* is the crux of the issue, morally?

          2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
        4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          Is it ok to fire (or whatever word) a visiting professor for supporting the wrong candidate, but not a regular one?

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          (Do you even know what a part time partner at YC does?)

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        6. Marc Cornellà‏ @MarcCornella 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg @codinghorror

          not to get all Godwin but would it be ok to do business with someone who helped Hitler?

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Marc Cornellà‏ @MarcCornella 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @MarcCornella @paulg @codinghorror

          is there some instance in which you'd say "I won't do business with you"? If so, there must be a line to be crossed.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Marc Cornellà‏ @MarcCornella 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @MarcCornella @paulg @codinghorror

          Trump would revert marriage equality and ban all abortions. That's a pretty big deal.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          Believing he’s making a mistake doesn’t make that the high bit of his reputation. Not how high bits work.

          2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @tqbf

          I used that metaphor deliberately.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          Fair enough! Just remember what Marx said about contradictions: increase their Hamming Weight!

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Dundon‏ @TedDundon 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          this whole idea of firing or separating w/ someone based on their political support is the most alt-left thing yet.

          3 replies 1 retweet 21 likes
        3. Bob Nilsson‏ @RHNilsson 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @TedDundon @paulg

          Depends on the situation. This is worth a read https://medium.com/projectinclude/peter-thiel-yc-and-hard-decisions-2b91bab83764#.mjxx0ojgr …

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Dundon‏ @TedDundon 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @RHNilsson @paulg

          Great read and glad that orgs are doing what is right for their mission!

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Dundon‏ @TedDundon 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @TedDundon @RHNilsson @paulg

          I do believe there is a huge diff btwn firing someone b/c they don't reflect values and firing someone b/c they donated.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Bob Nilsson‏ @RHNilsson 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @TedDundon @paulg

          Agreed and it's also possible that someone's distasteful beliefs have nothing to do with their role, so not job-related.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. End of conversation
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        2. Miki  🥶 🔥‏ @NickZarzycki 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          The worst thing about this whole thing has been your defensiveness. Stop acting like it's not a complicated issue.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Miki  🥶 🔥‏ @NickZarzycki 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @NickZarzycki @paulg

          Thiel is not just an 'employee.' People would be reacting a lot differently if you hinted at any kind of struggle in your thinking.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. Miki  🥶 🔥‏ @NickZarzycki 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @NickZarzycki @paulg

          Instead you've generally been shitty and defensive and claimed continued association with Thiel is the most natural thing possible.

          0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        5. End of conversation
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        2. Joshua‏ @SureReno 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @paulg

          i guess you have no idea what boasting about sexual assault means for YC. Oh and the KKK endorses the guy.

          1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
        3. Joshua‏ @SureReno 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @SureReno @paulg

          this is a bad judgment call by @sama to pick money over ethics. Not looking good for YC. Shame is right.

          1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
        4. Lukas Tilmann  🌐‏ @LTilmann 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @SureReno @paulg @sama

          you know that there are also ethics behind not shunning Thiel? You not sharing them doesnt make them invalid.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Joshua‏ @SureReno 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @LTilmann

          I’m not calling for a shunning. I’m calling for a course correction. Not encouraging bad behavior. That’s all.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Lukas Tilmann  🌐‏ @LTilmann 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @SureReno

          Whatever you call it and whatever you think is right - I addressed the "ethics over money" argument.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Joshua‏ @SureReno 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @LTilmann

          well, if you think it’s ethical to stand with friends who make damaging choices to others. Any rational person would question you

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Lukas Tilmann  🌐‏ @LTilmann 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @SureReno

          And the whole "tolerate somebodys opinion even if you disagree" is not a decision based on ethics?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Joshua‏ @SureReno 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @LTilmann

          not when someone is talking about assaulting another human. No. Seriously? Okay…let me put it another way.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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