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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 20 Jul 2016

    Phenomena like Brexit and the rise of Trump at least show that big business doesn't secretly control politics, as so many assume.

    6:27 AM - 20 Jul 2016
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      2. emenoh‏ @emenoh 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        Cause 2 data pts is how trends are found right?

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      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @emenoh

        When the data points are counterexamples, one is enough.

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      4. emenoh‏ @emenoh 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        Implying people think business controlling politics is universal and pervasive rather than strategically targeted. #strawman

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      1. James 'Crypto Listing Fees' Clark  🎃 😱 🤦🏼‍♂️‏ @mr_james_c 20 Jul 2016
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        Personally I'd rather it didn't take that sort of event to prove this.

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      2. Chrales  🦔‏ @loderunnr 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @paulg @alferr

        Both phenomena have yet to see a concrete resolution. When Trump is president and article 50 is triggered, tweet this again.

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      3. Chrales  🦔‏ @loderunnr 29 Mar 2017
        Replying to @loderunnr @paulg @alferr

        I was wrong. 😔

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      1. Jocelyn K. Glei‏ @jkglei 20 Jul 2016
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        intentionally control no, unintentionally yes: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/how-technology-disrupted-the-truth …

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      1. Wolfe‏ @alexwolfe 20 Jul 2016
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        when you use an exception and tout it as the standard, everyone loses. Same case here, both are exceptions, hence the phenomenon.

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      1. Wolfe‏ @alexwolfe 20 Jul 2016
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        that's not true Paul. Both phenomenon happened as a direct result of that. I think what you mean to say was "votes" not "politics"

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      1. Arne‏ @ArneKuilman 20 Jul 2016
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        One could always click on #goldman hashtag... Big Business DOES have interests.

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      1. Nicolás Alvariño‏ @NicolasAlvarino 20 Jul 2016
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        policies, not politics. You still can vote, but is not as meaningful as you think it is.

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      1. Eugenio Perea‏Verified account @eperea 20 Jul 2016
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        I think you may be overestimating conspiracy theorists' capacity to apply Bayes' law to their beliefs : )

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      2. *‏ @jonatack 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        The sample size could be a bit larger here, and these could also be long tail exceptions to the usual.

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      3. *‏ @jonatack 20 Jul 2016
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        .@paulg FWIW just received Chomsky's latest book today (published May 2016) and it begins on this very topic.pic.twitter.com/I2pVfr1gC6

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      4. *‏ @jonatack 20 Jul 2016
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        .@paulg sourcespic.twitter.com/jQQkCygopM

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      2. Jof‏ @JofArnold 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        How'd you figure that re Brexit? Newspapers made money. Hedge Funds made money. Everyone had a stake.

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      3. Geir Freysson  📈‏ @geirfreysson 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @JofArnold @paulg

        Big business was clearly mostly pro Remain. And rightly so as they could suffer under Brexit.

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      4. Jof‏ @JofArnold 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @geirfreysson @paulg

        That's not necessarily true either. Major exporters expect (and have received) huge increase in orders from £ v €/$

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      5. Geir Freysson  📈‏ @geirfreysson 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @JofArnold

        I'm not saying many of them didn't benefit, just that most were pro remain.https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/15/cbi-member-survey-reveals-huge-support-for-remaining-in-eu …

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      6. Jof‏ @JofArnold 21 Jul 2016
        Replying to @geirfreysson

        Which is my point to PG's original blanket statement. There's people with a stake on both sides, trying to influent result.

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