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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 23 Mar 2016

    Ryan Holl was sentenced to life in prison for lending his car to his friends. Not kidding.http://goo.gl/8kwUXw 

    8:56 AM - 23 Mar 2016
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      2.  🌎 (((tedfrank)))  🌎‏Verified account @tedfrank 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg @laurenkrisai @reason That's not what happened. Convicted for his intentional role in burglary. No sympathy.

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      3.  🌎 (((tedfrank)))  🌎‏Verified account @tedfrank 23 Mar 2016
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        @paulg @laurenkrisai @reason He admitted to police he knew his friends were going to use car for burglary.

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      4.  🌎 (((tedfrank)))  🌎‏Verified account @tedfrank 23 Mar 2016
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        @paulg @laurenkrisai @reason Don't want to be responsible for violence committed by other burglars? Don't help the burglars. No injustice.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      5.  🌎 (((tedfrank)))  🌎‏Verified account @tedfrank 23 Mar 2016
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        @paulg @laurenkrisai @reason And if he had been willing to testify against the other burglar-murderers, he'd be free now.

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      6. Lauren Krisai‏Verified account @laurenkrisai 23 Mar 2016
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        @tedfrank @paulg @reason I think this comment shows wrong with this rule more than anything else, though I assume that was unintentional.

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      7.  🌎 (((tedfrank)))  🌎‏Verified account @tedfrank 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @laurenkrisai

        @laurenkrisai Not sure of your point. Clearly guilty, decided he'd prefer not to snitch, which makes him even more culpable. No sympathy.

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      8. Lauren Krisai‏Verified account @laurenkrisai 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @tedfrank

        @tedfrank "snitching" does not decrease one's culpability. sent. should reflect actual role/crime, not whether they cooperate w prosecution.

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      9.  🌎 (((tedfrank)))  🌎‏Verified account @tedfrank 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @laurenkrisai

        @laurenkrisai That's a fascinating opinion absent from history and economic theory of criminal punishment.

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      1. BeveledEdge‏ @BeveledEdgeCo 23 Mar 2016
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        @paulg Paul if we didn't follow arbitrary rules like this what would judges and lawyers do?

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      2. John Weir‏ @tweetatweir 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg Odd that states don’t take the same logic to gun manufacturers : “No gun, no murder”

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      2. Chris Markl‏ @ChrisMarkl 23 Mar 2016
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        .@paulg the argument made by both govt & victim's family is compellinghttp://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/us/04felony.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=login …

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      3. Dan McArdle‏ @robustus 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @ChrisMarkl

        @ChrisMarkl @paulg Except that it isn't (in article at least). If test is simply "No car, no crime", Chevy should be convicted of murder too

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      4. Chris Markl‏ @ChrisMarkl 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @robustus

        .@robustus @paulg I'd argue a reasonable test is knowledge that there is a decent probability that your action can result in someone's death

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      5. Dan McArdle‏ @robustus 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @ChrisMarkl

        @ChrisMarkl @paulg From the article, sounds like that test was unmet. (I know nothing of this case beyond that article, though).

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      6. Chris Markl‏ @ChrisMarkl 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @robustus

        @robustus @paulg my intuition is that we agree more than we disagree but twitter is obviously not the best place to discuss...

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