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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 21 Dec 2015

    I wonder if VR explains the Fermi paradox. They're all engaging with separate virtual universes. Half joking, but only half.

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      1. Salim Ismail‏Verified account @salimismail 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg - yes.. see "transcension hypothesis" -http://singularityhub.com/2015/08/20/we-cant-find-any-alien-neighbors-and-virtual-reality-might-be-to-blame/ …

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      1. Scot Wizard‏ @scotywayne 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg @geoffmillerphd has had similar thoughts: http://edge.org/q2006/q06_print.html#miller …

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg spacetime itself is probl virtual, with waveform collapses being artifacts of trying to explain a computational system mathematically

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      1. Aleem Mawani‏ @aloo 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg you'd have to believe that every alien species succumbs to VR and chooses not to explore other "real" civilizations

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      1. Michael Wiik‏ @mwiik 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg No I think this is the most likely possibility. Or maybe The Deepening http://www.kschroeder.com/weblog/the-deepening-paradox …

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      1. James Tauber‏ @jtauber 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg a fascinating "other side of the same coin" to Bostrom's simulation argument

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      1. Panu Horsmalahti‏ @panuhorsmalahti 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg A rather old explanation, actually.

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      2. Amjad Masad‏ @amasad 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg not really. This assumes all aliens civilizations are sociologically similar to us.

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      3. Zach Tratar‏ @zachtratar 21 Dec 2015
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        @amasad @paulg does it? As long as they can replicate their own desired environment, I don't think sociological similarity matters.

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      4. Amjad Masad‏ @amasad 21 Dec 2015
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        @zachtratar @paulg given the vastness of the cosmos it would be a stretch to assume they all value an ideal environment (comfort) the most

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      5. Zach Tratar‏ @zachtratar 21 Dec 2015
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        @amasad @paulg If they like discomfort or chaos, could they not model that as well in a virtual environment?

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      6. Zach Tratar‏ @zachtratar 21 Dec 2015
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        @amasad @paulg also the Fermi paradox doesn't necessarily mean *all* civilizations do this. Just enough to prevent contact.

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      7. Amjad Masad‏ @amasad 21 Dec 2015
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        @zachtratar @paulg it's still a very large number. If they're motivated to explore they can't model something they don't know

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      8. Amjad Masad‏ @amasad 21 Dec 2015
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        @zachtratar @paulg even if they don't want to explore themselves then the cost of sending probes is not that high for advanced civilizations

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      9. Zach Tratar‏ @zachtratar 21 Dec 2015
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        @amasad @paulg if we're talking about probes that can only travel less than the speed of light (no wormholes), then odds aren't great

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      1. Noah Rosenberg‏ @nrose 23 Dec 2015
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        @paulg you should read Musements by @qarl Musements https://www.amazon.com/dp/1320446841/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_JtZEwbSK7WJXY …

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      1. Andy Sparks‏ @SparksZilla 23 Dec 2015
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        @paulg @DavidSherry36 You should read Accelerando =)

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      1. Jᴀᴍᴇs Hᴏwᴀʀᴅ‏ @jem72 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg My theory is that every civilization advances to the point where it invents Facebook. Then nothing else ever gets done.

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      1. Dan L‏ @danl2620 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg planets full of holodeck addicted creatures.

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      1. Chris Heinz‏ @ChrisJHeinz 21 Dec 2015
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        @paulg Idea has been around a while. http://bestsciencefictionstories.com/2008/04/10/wangs-carpets-by-greg-egan/ …

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