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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 8 Nov 2015

    Any industry that still has unions has potential energy that could be released by startups.

    12:43 PM - 8 Nov 2015
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      2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        (I don't mean in simply paying people less, but rather that industries afflicted by unions are sclerotic so have left lots undone.)

        31 replies 10 retweets 55 likes
      3. Chris Mallinson‏ @cmall 9 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg No, you mean paying people less.

        1 reply 0 retweets 32 likes
      4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 9 Nov 2015
        Replying to @cmall

        @cmall No I don't. A company trying to cut costs is happy to improve profits 10%. That is a couple weeks growth for a startup.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Chris Mallinson‏ @cmall 9 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg "Startup culture" favours quick money for founders over fostering sustainable employment. The only progress unions stifle is that 1/2

        2 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
      6. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 9 Nov 2015
        Replying to @cmall

        @cmall That's false too. The really successful founders are the ones who think long term.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 9 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @cmall In startups, quick money is small money. Orders of magnitude smaller.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. End of conversation
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      2. Konrad Traczyk‏ @konradtraczyk 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg what kind of bullshit is that?

        1 reply 2 retweets 66 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 12 Nov 2015
        Replying to @konradtraczyk

        @konradtraczyk Try reading the other 2 tweets.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. Alex Satrapa‏ @manicdee 28 Dec 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg do you have a rationale behind that statement, or just a latent desire to reintroduce slavery?

        1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 28 Dec 2015
        Replying to @manicdee

        @manicdee Read the two succeeding tweets.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Stefan Boberg‏ @bionicbeagle 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg "Empathy is probably the single most important difference between a good hacker and a great one." - do you still think this is true?

        1 reply 3 retweets 61 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @bionicbeagle

        @bionicbeagle Yes.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. RoToЯ‏ @the_real_rotor 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg by “energy released by startups” you mean “money to be squeezed out by and for the wealthy” right?

        1 reply 3 retweets 57 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @the_real_rotor

        @the_real_rotor No, I mean new products and services that could be created.

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. RoToЯ‏ @the_real_rotor 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg unions are not standing in the way of creating new prods & svcs except by demanding a decent wage for their members

        1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
      5. Ryan Petersen‏Verified account @typesfast 8 Nov 2015
        Replying to @the_real_rotor

        @the_real_rotor @paulg and by refusing to do work that's not in their job description.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. Glitter and Gold‏ @FLRealist 10 Nov 2015
        Replying to @typesfast

        @typesfast @the_real_rotor @paulg That is not restricted to unions.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Ryan Petersen‏Verified account @typesfast 10 Nov 2015
        Replying to @FLRealist

        @FLRealist @the_real_rotor @paulg yes but you fire people who behave like that unless they are in a union

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. RoToЯ‏ @the_real_rotor 10 Nov 2015
        Replying to @typesfast

        @typesfast @FLRealist @paulg people who say things like this have clearly never worked at a large company

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      9. Ryan Petersen‏Verified account @typesfast 10 Nov 2015
        Replying to @the_real_rotor

        @the_real_rotor @FLRealist @paulg you confirm Paul's original point. Big companies also ripe for disruption for same reason

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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