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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 Oct 2015

    When you accuse Silicon Valley of x, you're implicitly saying x works well, which doesn't seem smart if you're against x.

    5:37 PM - 19 Oct 2015
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      2. Carlos Ribeiro‏ @carribeiro 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg So you're saying that SV gets *everything* right, all the time? A big leap of faith I think. You know - you may be wrong sometimes.

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @carribeiro

        @carribeiro No, just that SV cos are effective compared to other organizations.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Carlos Ribeiro‏ @carribeiro 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg While I agree in the general sense - SV sets the example for we to follow - it's a fallacy to assume that any critic must be wrong.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @carribeiro

        @carribeiro They might not be wrong that x is bad in some other way, but the burden of proof is on them to show it makes orgs ineffective.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Carlos Ribeiro‏ @carribeiro 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg I kind of think that this goes against the learning attitude that should prevail independent of where you are. ;-)

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. M.‏ @mmolaro 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg how does this reasoning work against the complaints of diversity issues/workplace issues?

        2 replies 0 retweets 34 likes
      3. Nick Prudent Ⓥ‏ @xecretcode 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @mmolaro

        .@mmolaro Exactly! @paulg thinks Silicon Valley is perfect b/c it makes a lot of money. Saudi Arabia makes a lot of money too. 😠

        1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
      4. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @xecretcode

        @xecretcode Saudi Arabia's revenues come from resource extraction. It's more accurate to say they have money than that they make it.

        2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
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      2. Luke VanderHart‏ @levanderhart 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg The (barely) hidden premise to this logic is that SV itself works optimally on all axes. To that, the only response is sad laughter.

        1 reply 3 retweets 28 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @levanderhart

        @levanderhart No, not that SV's cos are optimal, just that they're effective compared to other organizations.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Jason Crawford‏ @jasoncrawford 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg Not necessarily… could be that SV is successful in spite of X, not because of it? (Also could reflect a moral/practical dichotomy.)

        3 replies 0 retweets 25 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @jasoncrawford

        @jasoncrawford Yes, could be and no doubt sometimes is. But now Occam's Razor is a headwind.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Jay Feldblum‏ @yfeldblum 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg @jasoncrawford Unless one tries to connect the dots in some way, there is no implicit claim from "SV does X" to "X works well."

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Scott Miller  🍼 🤡 😴‏ @sbmiller5 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg this is completely insane logic.

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @sbmiller5

        Paul Graham Retweeted Paul Graham

        @sbmiller5 Do you find you also disagree with this instance of it?https://twitter.com/paulg/status/656280768373727232 …

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        Paul GrahamVerified account @paulg
        One of the most dangerous ideas to conservative politicians: that it is not a coincidence startup hubs are so liberal.
        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Scary Maine‏ @JerryLMaine 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg @sbmiller5 yes. The idea that great men should be excused criminality is an extension of the great man narrative fallacy generally.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Scary Maine‏ @JerryLMaine 20 Oct 2015
        Replying to @JerryLMaine

        @paulg @sbmiller5 start ups are liberal because they need to succeed, and conservatives fail to take chances / honor new ideas.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Dan Prisk‏ @danprisk 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg Effective != Desireable. Many things in history have been brutally effective and entirely undesirable.

        1 reply 4 retweets 40 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @danprisk

        @danprisk I agree. But in practice nearly all who attack SV for x also claim x is less effective.

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. I do miss the old names‏ @kittykaraoke 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg @danprisk but if SV only has X then how do you know X is more effective than Y?

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. LukeMullen 🍀 🇺🇸 ⚛️1%‏ @Luke1732Mullen 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @kittykaraoke

        .@kittykaraoke @paulg @danprisk 'obviously' if Z more-effective, others doing Z will unseat those still doing X, unless Z converges to X

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. I do miss the old names‏ @kittykaraoke 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @Luke1732Mullen

        @Luke1732Mullen @paulg @danprisk There is nothing obvious about people discovering something new. Everyone thinks the same =>no one does Z.

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. LukeMullen 🍀 🇺🇸 ⚛️1%‏ @Luke1732Mullen 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @kittykaraoke

        .@kittykaraoke @paulg @danprisk an AWESOME opportunity for someone to upset apple cart by doing hyper-optimal Z instead of (sub)optimal X

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. I do miss the old names‏ @kittykaraoke 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @Luke1732Mullen

        @Luke1732Mullen @paulg @danprisk except, there are structural reasons that the apple cart is the way it is. stable equilibrium, need$$$ etc

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. I do miss the old names‏ @kittykaraoke 19 Oct 2015
        Replying to @kittykaraoke

        @Luke1732Mullen @paulg @danprisk + .. to move it off its current path. not frictionless.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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