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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Mar 2015

    All progress in tools increases economic inequality. Tools multiply output, and the bottom end of the range is always zero.

    11:24 AM - 18 Mar 2015
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      2. Tim O'Reilly‏Verified account @timoreilly 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg You are wrong. Inequality is a result of choices we make as a society. It is not a technological inevitability!

        10 replies 45 retweets 129 likes
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @timoreilly

        @timoreilly That has a nice sound to it, but I can disprove it simply by going on vacation for a year.

        10 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      4. Alex Iskold  🗽‏ @alexiskold 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg @timoreilly I am with Tim. It's like you are saying poor of today are same 0 they were 500 years ago? No way. They are better "0".

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 19 Mar 2015
        Replying to @alexiskold

        @alexiskold Who said anything about the poor? Someone who does nothing creates no wealth. Surely that is invariant.

        3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. Alex Iskold  🗽‏ @alexiskold 19 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg I probably misunderstood. I thought you meant that tools widen economic gap, and that I don't agree with.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Jim Stogdill  🙊‏ @jstogdill 18 Mar 2015
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        @paulg Tools shouldn't decrease the wealth of the people using them. That's an economic system artifact.

        2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @jstogdill

        @jstogdill My point is that tools increase their wealth, but by varying amounts, yielding increased inequality.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. TwitBot‏ @vasilipoupkine1 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg @jstogdill Paul, it's just incorrect. Internet is a tool, I would argue it's decreases inequality

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      5. Manuel Klarmann‏ @mklarmann 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @vasilipoupkine1

        @vasilipoupkine @paulg @jstogdill I would argue against. Even the internet increased inequality.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. TwitBot‏ @vasilipoupkine1 19 Mar 2015
        Replying to @mklarmann

        @mklarmann @paulg @jstogdill worldwide ? No, it didn't. Plus in the US it's not clear. Worldwide inequality FELL

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Diego Basch‏ @dbasch 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        .@paulg not *all* tools multiply output. Some make it possible for people with certain handicaps to go from 0 to something.

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      1. Karahi Ghost‏ @aanand 18 Mar 2015
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        Karahi Ghost Retweeted Paul Graham

        Whoa, @paulg actually said something correct – he just forgot to put “Under capitalism,” at the beginninghttps://twitter.com/paulg/status/578260709131329536 …

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        Paul GrahamVerified account @paulg
        All progress in tools increases economic inequality. Tools multiply output, and the bottom end of the range is always zero.
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      1. Jason Crawford‏ @jasoncrawford 18 Mar 2015
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        @paulg Conclusion: Pro-equality is anti-progress?

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      1. Simon Bayly‏ @simonbayly 18 Mar 2015
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        .@paulg but it also feels like the shape of the distribution is changing, not simply the scale.

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      2. Cole Ott‏ @coleott 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg except tools that lower barriers to entry, address disabilities, are more valuable to low or mid-range users than power users, etc…

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Cole Ott‏ @coleott 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @coleott

        @paulg tools certainly exist to increase output, but acting like it's usually a linear relationship seems (harmfully) reductive

        0 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
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      2. Jim Stogdill  🙊‏ @jstogdill 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg Improved farm implements didn't make farmers poorer.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. waitsforsleep‏ @waitsforsleep 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @jstogdill

        @jstogdill @paulg One can also argue that cheaper and more efficient tools lower the barrier of entry thus driving down inequality

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Mark Collier‏Verified account @sparkycollier 18 Mar 2015
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg then why has poverty dropped more in the last 15 years than ever in human history? http://www.macleans.ca/politics/worldpolitics/the-mysterious-disappearance-of-poverty/ … cc @timoreilly

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