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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 6 Jun 2013

    Didn't every hacker already take it for granted that the NSA had everything? Not that it's ok.

    5:38 PM - 6 Jun 2013
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      2. Ryan Lackey‏ @octal 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @paulg

        .@paulg Betrayal by tech companies built by nerds is the bad part; everyone assumed NSA monitored all comm links, but transport sec is ~easy

        2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Adam‏ @adammcrosby 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @octal

        @octal @paulg everyone's assuming this is more than a regular "market research" feed. How to hide TS component given face books culture?

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      4. Ryan Lackey‏ @octal 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @adammcrosby

        @adam757 @paulg Although were I NSA wouldn't want FB to know *who* I was searching for (may be TS/SAP itself), so I'd want wholesale mirror.

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      5. Adam‏ @adammcrosby 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @octal

        @octal @paulg agreed. I jus imagine how you pull that off - how many of fb devs are foreign? A mirror would be incredibly hard to hide...

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      6. Ryan Lackey‏ @octal 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @adammcrosby

        @adam757 @paulg No, it's a read-only mirror which never needs to sync back. FB has plenty of "deployment circles", etc.; this would be easy

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      1. twiterated prisoner’s dilemma‏ @sneakdotberlin 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @paulg

        .@paulg it was one year and one day ago i offered 50BTC on HN for anyone who'd leak screenshots. :D https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4070811 

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      1. Mike Tⓐylor  🇬🇧  🇪🇺‏ @MikeTaylor 6 Jun 2013
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        @paulg This is the problem. We talk as though "Oh, yeah, we knew that", and so gradually persuade ourselves and each other that it's OK.

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      2. Colin Percival‏ @cperciva 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg I certainly did. I also assume that the NSA watches those of us who work in security more closely -- because they'd be idiots not to.

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      3. Ryan Lackey‏ @octal 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @cperciva

        @cperciva @paulg Obviously not just *our* government.

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      1. vruz‏ @vruz 6 Jun 2013
        Replying to @paulg

        @paulg Silly remark. One thing is to have a hypothesis labelled as conspiracy theory, another is to have a document telling you it's true.

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      1. Melissa  💫‏ @0xabad1dea 6 Jun 2013
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        @paulg @sanitybit hello yes this is Cassandra speaking

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      1. Jonathan Swanson‏ @swaaanson 6 Jun 2013
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        If you're surprised you haven't been paying attention MT @paulg: Didn't every hacker already take it for granted that NSA had everything?

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      1. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 6 Jun 2013
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        @paulg It's appearance in "legitimate news" helps people understand our concerns and listen to our warnings.

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      1. Aarjav Trivedi‏ @aarjav 6 Jun 2013
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        @paulg I did, especially since I wasn’t born here!

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      1. Ornamental Hermit‏ @deezthugs 6 Jun 2013
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        @paulg Certainly not most "hackers" in Silicon Valley where personal data is the currency of the land @sneakatdatavibe

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      1. Dillon Compton‏ @comptly 7 Jun 2013
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        @paulg precisely.

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      1. Dennis Doughty‏ @DennisDoughty 7 Jun 2013
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        @paulg yep, tho I always had some question about whether it HAD everything or merely could GET it when needed. Not much diff I'll grant.

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      1. Yaniv Aknin‏ @aknin 7 Jun 2013
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        @paulg I don't know if you take essay proposals, but I'm curious on your take re. why doesn't anyone seem to care - especially youngsters.

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      1. Nicholas Hawtin‏ @RiskContainment 7 Jun 2013
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        Sadly, yes. RT @paulg: Didn't every hacker already take it for granted that the NSA had everything? Not that it's ok.

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      1. Olaf Alex‏ @olaf_alex 7 Jun 2013
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        .@paulg depends on how cynical one was/is… https://twitter.com/nickbilton/status/342804486227636225 …

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