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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg Apr 22

    The Real Reason to End the Death Penalty: http://paulgraham.com/real.html 

    2:37 AM - 22 Apr 2021
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      2. Chris Wilson‏ @SkavenblightRad Apr 22
        Replying to @paulg @SnellArthur

        Killing people is wrong not enough?

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      3. James Cole‏ @jamesrcole Apr 22
        Replying to @SkavenblightRad @paulg @SnellArthur

        Proponents of the death penalty obviously don’t think so. But some of them might be swayed by the number of innocent people who are executed.

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      2. Dr Doug McNeall‏ @dougmcneall Apr 22
        Replying to @paulg

        You mean in America, right? I mean, here in the U.K. it seems as though it’s still very much about whether it’s ok to kill murderers.

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      3. Dr Doug McNeall‏ @dougmcneall Apr 22
        Replying to @dougmcneall @paulg

        I think “in practice” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. This essay makes a lot of assumptions.

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      2. Mark Tsimelzon‏ @marktsimelzon Apr 22
        Replying to @paulg

        Not really arguing with the conclusion, but why is it then ok to put innocent people in prison for life? Yes, you can potentially reverse the conviction, but that's small comfort for somebody freed 40 years later, or for somebody who died in prison.

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      3. StefanoXL‏ @stefanol2006 Apr 22
        Replying to @marktsimelzon @paulg

        Judicial mistakes will always occur, as in any human activity. At least there could partial redressing in case of prison sentences, as opposed to executions. Note that i'm not contrary to the death penalty on general grounds, but the mistake argument is just too compelling.

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      1. Augusto‏ @augustiner_h Apr 22
        Replying to @paulg

        The intro alone is perfect. Many people have concerns about giving AI the power to control deadly force (weapons, cars). But the same logic should apply to granting deadly force to similarly underperforming classifier systems like e.g. Justice

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      1. Zack Mellette‏ @zackmellAtl Apr 22
        Replying to @paulg

        I’m not sure it’s the “real” reason but it’s plenty reason enough to end it in my opinion. The Anthony Ray Hinton story is enough to sell you on that.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34964905-the-sun-does-shine# …

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      1. Preetam Satish‏ @preetamsatish Apr 22
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        I feel the same way. But I also feel that the state being able to kill with societal sanction is morally reprehensible and is a compelling argument in and of itself.

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      2. John L Davidson‏ @HHIDavidson Apr 22
        Replying to @paulg

        Paul, we need the Death Penalty in our statutes. What would we do, for example, if a more robust 9/11 conspiracy left us prisoners caught on US soil but co-conspirators able to take and execute hostages elsewhere until we released those whom we caught.

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