Parenting trick: When your kids reach the sullen teen stage where they don't want to talk to you, drive them places. In the car they forget they're having a conversation. It helps that you're both looking forward instead of at each other.
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they probably just need their own space
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They want to be more independent, so they want to make their own decisions, no matter how stupid, to learn independence. They can listen to good advice later in life
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