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    1. Romeen Sheth‏ @RomeenSheth Mar 12

      Narrative Violation : “Don’t invest in MBAs” If you just invested in the HBS Class of 2011, you would have hit $100B+ in market cap. - Coupang: $60B - Grab: $17B - Gojek: $10B - Oscar Health: $7B - Stitchfix: $5B Lesson? Don’t make up “proxy rules” in a game of outliers.

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    2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg Mar 12
      Replying to @RomeenSheth @dadiomov

      Your returns though have to be divided by your costs, and those depend on how many others started startups that didn't do as well. There were 1000 people in the class of 2011, so that number could be quite large.

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    3. Romeen Sheth‏ @RomeenSheth Mar 12
      Replying to @paulg @dadiomov

      If all 1000 people started a startup in the class (and every other went to 0), it’d be a $100M exit on average for each co. Seed was more reasonable 10 years ago so entry point probably averaged $5M post? Even w/ 50% dilution, its 10x across the board. What am I missing PG?

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg Mar 12
      Replying to @RomeenSheth @dadiomov

      The dilution would be more like 2/3, so 6x if you could get into these cos at 5m. Which is still good. The overall returns are dominated by 1 co though, which can yield weird conclusions. E.g. you'd do much better if your rule was to invest only in HBS dropouts.

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        2. Aleem Mawani‏ @aloo Mar 12
          Replying to @paulg @RomeenSheth @dadiomov

          It's kind of weird to assume that every person in the class started a company. You'd only have to fund the ones that did want to start companies. If I remember correctly the stats were 10-15% started companies right after graduating, but rose to 50% within 10 years.

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        3. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov Mar 12
          Replying to @aloo @paulg @RomeenSheth

          There’s no way 50% start a venture backed tech startup. Maybe 50% start a business, but a lot of those are consulting or SMB or funds of some sort, many super successful, but not tech startups you can invest in.

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        2. Romeen Sheth‏ @RomeenSheth Mar 12
          Replying to @paulg @dadiomov

          Fair. If you went 2 years back, you'd also pick up Cloudflare, Rent the Runway, Blue Apron, Birchbox, Plated. The original conclusion was don't decide to NOT invest because of an MBA (which I stand by). I wouldn't say TO invest because of an MBA. I like your rule as well.

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        3. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg Mar 12
          Replying to @RomeenSheth @dadiomov

          I know of no investor who wouldn't fund a startup because one of the founders had an MBA though, so if that's your point, everyone already agrees with you.

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        1. Ben Prawdzik‏ @BenPrawdzik Mar 12
          Replying to @paulg @RomeenSheth @dadiomov

          Venture returns have always been driven by outliers

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