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    1. timoreilly‏Verified account @timoreilly Feb 18

      A staggering calculation of the $47T cumulative wealth transfer from the bottom of the income distribution to the top over the past forty years.https://bit.ly/3u9F90p 

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    2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg Feb 18
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    3. timoreilly‏Verified account @timoreilly Feb 20
      Replying to @paulg

      Yes, the pie has grown, but some slices have grown much faster than others. And the idea that this is due to the special merit of those getting a bigger slice rather than to changes in the system is quite self-serving.

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg Feb 20
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      It's due to both. The reason founders get so much richer is that it's easier to start a company that grows fast. That's a change in the system. But as someone whose job it was to find them, I can tell you the sort of people who can start these companies are rare.

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        1. Shawn Yarbrough‏ @corecursion Feb 20
          Replying to @paulg @timoreilly

          You’re right, but these rare people could pay their more-normal employees better.

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        1. Sloth is a Virtue‏ @virtuous_sloth Feb 20
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          Think about the fact that the vast majority of humanity has no ability to take risks, especially entrepreneurial risks. Imagine if you unleashed their creativity. Resources are wasted on the rich.

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        2. millettjon‏ @millettjon Feb 21
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          But how do you separate the effects? It could be that it is not that rate but most are anchored due to structural effects.

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        3. millettjon‏ @millettjon Feb 21
          Replying to @millettjon @paulg @timoreilly

          A lot of the value generated goes unrecognized financially. For example creators of open source software and art.

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        2. timoreilly‏Verified account @timoreilly Feb 21
          Replying to @paulg

          Right, but just compare the returns to those kind of people today versus a decade ago, or two decades ago. Are you saying that someone like Adam Neumann should be paid hundreds of times more than what the founders of Intel or HP made at a similar stage of their company?

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        3. timoreilly‏Verified account @timoreilly Feb 21
          Replying to @timoreilly @paulg

          For that matter, compare what Steve Jobs made from Apple to what founders of far less consequential companies have made recently. There is just this enormous flow towards the top few.

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        2. timoreilly‏Verified account @timoreilly Feb 21
          Replying to @paulg

          I don't think it's easier to start a company that grows fast and is profitable. Very few seem to be able to pull that off. What has changed is the ability of people who grow big companies that have no business model to walk away with large amounts of money. That's the change.

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        3. Firas Durri‏ @firasd Feb 21
          Replying to @timoreilly @paulg

          I think some perspective is helpful--startups are small part of economy. So overall economic trends shouldn't be seen through this lens at all

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        1. Mike Casey‏ @mcaseyjr Feb 21
          Replying to @paulg @timoreilly

          Disingenuous argument. The study is about income inequality and you’re referring to wealth accretion (via company shares). Here is a relevant snippet from the paper’s methodology.pic.twitter.com/y9uPSMc2m1

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        1. Syed Iqbal Simnani‏ @SimnaniIqbals Feb 21
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          I agree on both. Extremely talented people make such companies. Technology as a multiplier along with new finance ecosystem ( VC etc) helps grow fast. Yet a society can only sustain so much inequality before a backlash( even if fair wealth). Possibly a Silicon valley blindspot.

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