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    Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg Feb 7

    Surprised only 20% of high-performance computing is done in the cloud. It's such a natural fit. Why? Users tend to be large, slow organizations. This means opportunity! If you have a compute-intensive idea, you can have much lower costs than incumbents.https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/2021/02/02/can-public-clouds-fix-the-developer-experience-in-the-hpc-domain/ …

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      1. Bombay Boy‏ @abombayboy Feb 7
        Replying to @paulg

        the resistance big corporations have had over the past 10 years towards moving to the cloud is astounding. Everybody is so afraid of a mis-step and getting fired, their only strategy seems to be being luddites in the name of "tried and tested"

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      2. monday‏ @12d855 Feb 7
        Replying to @paulg

        as per a CERN acquaintance, they tried AWS and it didn't work - they hammer a node to capacity all the time, while AWS offering at the time was designed with sharing in mind

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      3. monday‏ @12d855 Feb 7
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        the other reason physics computing is often done in-house is funding and - for large experiments buying hardware is easier than buying raw compute

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      1. Preetam Satish‏ @preetamsatish Feb 7
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        One can certainly design a cloud facility geared to HPC but will that investment justify the average cloud loads ?

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      2. David R White #KillTheBill‏ @drdrwhite Feb 7
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        Mixed bag. Low latency interconnect is essential for much HPC. Also, data is an issue: both keeping it secure but also uploading/downloading large volumes of data is slow and expensive with cloud services. But I’m certain more HPC could be done in the cloud, lots of NIH syndrome

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      3. Paweł Lasek‏ @pawel_lasek Feb 7
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        Only Azure provided low latency interconnects last time I checked. Another problem is that cloud is simply waaaaay too expensive.

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      1. Nestor Rueda-Vallejo‏ @nestorueda Feb 7
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        As a user of HPC for numerical simulations I’d add that the whole ecosystem seems to be stuck with outdated licensing models and codes. Most of the leading simulation software vendors still charge per core! That’s so 80’s... today even the crappiest phone come with 4 cores.

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      1. superherointj‏ @superherointj Feb 7
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        Cloud isn't necessarily cheaper.

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      1. James Rutley‏ @JamesRutleys Feb 7
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        AI compute also on its way to Africa:https://twitter.com/JamesRutleys/status/1348622772348575748?s=19 …

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        .@cnbcafrica’s @gmutizwa discusses Africa’s AI economy and Africa’s first AI fund with @muhtariadanan. - agreed to the interview at very short notice, sleep deprived, pumped on caffeine 😳 https://www.cnbcafrica.com/videos/2021/01/11/heres-how-much-africa-could-add-to-its-economy-by-extending-ai-to-its-financial-services/ …
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      1. Captain Troll‏ @dreederer Feb 7
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        You'd be surprised how expensive the cloud is if you have a lot of computation to do. If you can keep your servers busy crunching numbers, it's definitively worth buying them, not renting.

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