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    1. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      1/ This is a fascinating read on COBOL, its origins, and how it keeps the world going round. Its use is so widespread that replacing what already exists with a more modern stack would, alone, keep the fintech world humming for "a couple of lifetimes."https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-us/magazine/cobol-controls-your-money …

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    2. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      2/ "Over 80% of in-person transactions at U.S. financial institutions use COBOL. Fully 95% of the time you swipe your bank card, there’s COBOL running somewhere in the background."

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    3. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      3/ "The Bank of New York Mellon in 2012 found it had 112,500 individual COBOL programs, constituting almost 350 million lines; that is probably typical for most big financial institutions."

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    4. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      4/ "No one quite knows how much COBOL is out there, but estimates suggest there are as many as 240 billion lines of the code quietly powering many of the most crucial parts of our everyday lives."

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    5. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      5/ "The sheer age of those COBOL systems is, oddly, actually something that works in their favor. Because they’re old, they have been relentlessly debugged. When a program is first written, it inevitably has problems. Sometimes it’s a typo, a misplaced command; other times.."

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    6. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      6/ "...the user does something the programmer never expected, and things crash. When you get a new app, if it’s buggy and crash-prone, this is why: the creators sent it out into the world with lots of little flaws. It can take days, weeks, or years to discover all the problems."

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    7. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      7/ "COBOL is not merely fast; it’s also "stable, stable, stable." One process takes, every month, a file of about 2.4 million government pension and puts the proper amounts in people’s bank accounts. “We verify them and check them in 11 minutes. It hasn't failed in 20 years.”

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    8. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020

      8/ "The Commonwealth Bank of Australia tried to rewrite a core system in a fresh language; the project cost twice as much as they expected, $1 billion in Australian dollars."

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 27 Nov 2020
      Replying to @dadiomov

      I suspect that's more of a data point about the Commonwealth Bank of Australia than about programming languages or financial software.

      9:39 AM - 27 Nov 2020
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        1. Dimitri Dadiomov‏ @dadiomov 27 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg

          I'm sure that's true. But I'm also confident it's extremely generalizable to other banks.

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        1. Alec Wilson‏ @alecfwilson 27 Nov 2020
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          I'm a fan of @ByrneHobart's piece on either banning COBOL or subsidizing classes in it, but nothing in between:https://medium.com/@byrnehobart/you-cant-reduce-all-economic-decisions-to-a-series-of-financial-bets-but-it-s-a-good-way-to-d40e88e89e17 …

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