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    1. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 26 Nov 2020

      Political betting markets still give Trump a >10% chance, both nationally and in several states where *results have been certified*. As I've said before, it's a bit alarming there are so many delusional people out there that the market equilibrium is this detached from reality.pic.twitter.com/SiKXccMvE8

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      Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      I was astonished to see the same thing here today: https://ftx.com/trade/TRUMPFEB . I check occasionally to see when they'll get it, and it still hasn't happened.

      6:28 AM - 26 Nov 2020
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        1. Alex the Entreprenerd‏ @GalloDaSballo 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NateSilver538

          @paulg You can check the odds here as well:https://polymarket.com/market/will-donald-trump-be-inaugurated-for-his-second-term-as-president-of-the-usa-on-inauguration-day-january-20th-2021 …

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        2. tommy‏ @tommyrva 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NateSilver538

          the transaction costs make betting markets inefficient as they reach 10% probability non-crypto markets charge huge withdrawal fees and crypto markets inherently have large transaction costs and low liquidity no way to make $ betting on Biden as you approach 90% so nobody bets

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        3. tommy‏ @tommyrva 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @tommyrva @paulg @NateSilver538

          tommy Retweeted Vote

          also this: https://twitter.com/Ya_Jackalope/status/1331967735153238023 … the smoke test is: go try to make money betting on Biden right now. You can't. So it's best to ignore these markets around the 90% mark.

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          Nate, this is largely because PredictIt and FTX haven't paid out yet so people are selling Biden shares at ~90¢ to get their winnings now. They're also not accepting new deposits on these contracts.
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        2. Jim Miller‏ @jamillahhhh 26 Nov 2020

          Well, you do have a PhD in Expertise, so good enough for me

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        1. Anders Larsson - all fun n games  😎‏ @Asseraj 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NateSilver538

          What is the volume now?

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        2. John R Fuisz‏ @jrfuisz 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NateSilver538

          @robinhanson the markets are off because of an emotional trigger inducing an irrational belief. In attorney parlance - introducing doubt (eg gloves dont fit must acquit). Knowing and controlling those triggers is the edge of info ops / advertising / propaganda detection.

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        3. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 26 Nov 2020
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          Ordinary markets are full of emotional triggers and irrational beliefs by individuals. Even so, they do well on average.

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        1. Ninad Naik‏ @ninadrn 26 Nov 2020
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          Can faithless electors not impact the outcome at this point?

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        2. Scott Leibrand‏ @scottleibrand 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @paulg @NateSilver538

          I keep being very surprised to see otherwise smart people who can’t seem to fathom that the structural features of these prediction markets make it impossible to make enough money correcting them any further, so the problem isn’t going to just resolve itself.

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        3. Ted Sanders‏ @sandersted 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @scottleibrand @paulg @NateSilver538

          I know the structural factors for PredictIt ($850 max, 5000 traders max, etc.). What are the structural factors for the other markets?

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